I wonder what happened here?
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thinfourth2

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32,414 posts

234 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bradford-west...

A 23-year old woman has died after she was found on fire behind a house in Bradford, police have said.

West Yorkshire Police and fire crews were called to a property on Cloudsdale Avenue, south of the city centre, at 1915 BST on Thursday.

A force spokesman said the woman, who was found "alight", was pronounced dead at the scene.


Of course this is nothing to do with the family it must be a strange accident involving a young pregnant girl wanting a barbecue

paddyhasneeds

67,995 posts

240 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Bradford, dead woman on fire. I've not clicked the link yet but I'm going to take a wild guess here...

Digga

48,359 posts

313 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Vermin.

With matches.

Red&WhiteMonkey

9,173 posts

212 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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paddyhasneeds said:
Bradford, dead woman on fire. I've not clicked the link yet but I'm going to take a wild guess here...
Does your wild guess involve uncles and so-called "honour"?

carreauchompeur

18,327 posts

234 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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What an odd comment from one of the neighbours...

"I've heard she's an Asian lady and I don't think her parents are in this country," she said. "We're all Asians round here but she never came out the house."

But yes, it does all sound highly fishy and no doubt there are some "Honour" issues afoot.

elster

17,517 posts

240 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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A pregnant woman no less.


Jasandjules

72,622 posts

259 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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I hope they find who did this and terminate them. With fire.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

235 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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elster said:
A pregnant woman no less.
Seems she was married, so where's the honour issue coming from? I'm going to wildly specualte that she banged someone else/was banged by someone else and the baby was not the fathers.

/thesun

elster

17,517 posts

240 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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musclecarmad said:
not clicked on the link but i can tell you approximately what happened without any media spin.

muslim girl gets pregnant by someone other than who her family wanted
it was outside of marriage
family found out
dishonoured family
family wanted to put it right in their opinion
set the girl on fire
girl found dead

not much more to it than that folks.

it's a strange old world
EFA

Edited by elster on Friday 15th October 15:11

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

222 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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elster said:
musclecarmad said:
not clicked on the link but i can tell you approximately what happened without any media spin.

muslim girl gets pregnant by someone other than who her family wanted
it was outside of marriage
family found out
dishonoured family
family wanted to put it right in their opinion
set the girl on fire
girl found dead

not much more to it than that folks.

it's a strange old world
EFA

Edited by elster on Friday 15th October 15:11
One of these options, I hope the police don't waste too much money investigating.

A gallon of petrol for each family member is only going to come to £1000.

Nicholas Blair

4,111 posts

314 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Case closed.

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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The scary thing is that this sort of thing didn't used to happen in Bradford in the 1970s and 1980s, even though there were already plenty of Pakistanis. There has been an influx of less well educated people who have no interest whatsoever in this country other than as a place to live with free healthcare and benefits.

elster

17,517 posts

240 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Zod said:
The scary thing is that this sort of thing didn't used to happen in Bradford in the 1970s and 1980s, even though there were already plenty of Pakistanis. There has been an influx of less well educated people who have no interest whatsoever in this country other than as a place to live with free healthcare and benefits.
It is usually the younger generations and the older generations really don't like their values.

A family friend moved here in 70's and he really can't understand where they get their ideals.

Piersman2

6,676 posts

229 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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hornetrider said:
elster said:
A pregnant woman no less.
Seems she was married, so where's the honour issue coming from? I'm going to wildly specualte that she banged someone else/was banged by someone else and the baby was not the fathers.

/thesun
I think I can state with some certainty that the baby would be the father's.

Only possible defense against this would immaculate conception, but even then the father would be God.

Digga

48,359 posts

313 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Piersman2 said:
hornetrider said:
elster said:
A pregnant woman no less.
Seems she was married, so where's the honour issue coming from? I'm going to wildly specualte that she banged someone else/was banged by someone else and the baby was not the fathers.

/thesun
I think I can state with some certainty that the baby would be the father's.

Only possible defense against this would immaculate conception, but even then the father would be God.
Quite right.

The point which I think was been fumbled towards is that the deceased has been over here (with her husband) for "less than a year" and was with child, giving rise to the possibility that the father is not the husband.

elster

17,517 posts

240 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Piersman2 said:
hornetrider said:
elster said:
A pregnant woman no less.
Seems she was married, so where's the honour issue coming from? I'm going to wildly specualte that she banged someone else/was banged by someone else and the baby was not the fathers.

/thesun
I think I can state with some certainty that the baby would be the father's.

Only possible defence against this would immaculate conception, but even then the father would be God.
It worked for Mary to Joseph wink

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

292 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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TVR Moneypit said:
It doesn't come as much of a suprise to see that there is not a comments section on that BBC article.
Indeed, they have quite a few stories running where comments from the floor would disturb their perceived socialist utopia.

"She said: "We never saw her. There was a time we were quite close to that family, but not now."

Indeed.

colonel c

8,054 posts

269 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Mojocvh said:
TVR Moneypit said:
It doesn't come as much of a suprise to see that there is not a comments section on that BBC article.
Indeed, they have quite a few stories running where comments from the floor would disturb their perceived socialist utopia.
So. Is there a comments sections on any of the news stories on the BBC's web site. Or shell we not let reality spoil another paranoid rant against the BBC.


Pickled Piper

6,452 posts

265 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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Zod said:
The scary thing is that this sort of thing didn't used to happen in Bradford in the 1970s and 1980s, even though there were already plenty of Pakistanis. There has been an influx of less well educated people who have no interest whatsoever in this country other than as a place to live with free healthcare and benefits.
This is so true. Not just in Bradford but around the country. The mindset and value system of more recent immigrants is very different to those that arrived some time ago.

Thank New Labour's open door immigration policy and the benefit handout.

pp

cazzer

8,883 posts

278 months

Friday 15th October 2010
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colonel c said:
Mojocvh said:
TVR Moneypit said:
It doesn't come as much of a suprise to see that there is not a comments section on that BBC article.
Indeed, they have quite a few stories running where comments from the floor would disturb their perceived socialist utopia.
So. Is there a comments sections on any of the news stories on the BBC's web site. Or shell we not let reality spoil another paranoid rant against the BBC.
Yes

This one from today for example.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-115462...