How to beat the EU?
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A.J.M

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8,391 posts

216 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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Found this link on another forum.

Very clever idea by german guy to get around the EU ban on lightbulbs over 60w.

I do like what he donates to as well. Going to help a good cause rather than a load of crap that cant yet be proven.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20101015/tsc-oukoe-uk-...

Tsippy

15,078 posts

199 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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Excellent!

fk you EU biggrin

cazzer

8,883 posts

278 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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Well done that man.

fk em smile

Puggit

49,820 posts

278 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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thumbup

herewego

8,814 posts

243 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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If they get plenty of publicity they may help folk to understand why they are banned.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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herewego said:
If they get plenty of publicity they may help folk to understand why they are banned.
Why were they banned?


Globulator

13,847 posts

261 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
herewego said:
If they get plenty of publicity they may help folk to understand why they are banned.
Why were they banned?
Because the European Empire deems global warming to be our problem.

JensenA

5,671 posts

260 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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cazzer said:
Well done that man.

fk em smile
+1 Top man

herewego

8,814 posts

243 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
herewego said:
If they get plenty of publicity they may help folk to understand why they are banned.
Why were they banned?
You'll have to buy a heatball to find out. smile

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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Globulator said:
thinfourth2 said:
herewego said:
If they get plenty of publicity they may help folk to understand why they are banned.
Why were they banned?
Because the European Empire deems global warming to be our problem.
So assuming manmade global warming is true

Why were they banned?

I've never understood the throw out working stuff and buy new stuff to save the planet thing

dandarez

14,029 posts

313 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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The EU may well have banned 100w light bulbs - there was a hullabaloo in the news about a year ago. Then they disappeared after stocks in shops were sold.

Now, quietly, 100w have re-emerged. The German is wasting his time, unless it's stricter over there.

Go anywhere in the UK and you can buy 100w without problem.

Not sure what happened but hopefully it was a good fingers-up to the EU.


b2hbm

1,301 posts

252 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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dandarez said:
The EU may well have banned 100w light bulbs - there was a hullabaloo in the news about a year ago. Then they disappeared after stocks in shops were sold.

Now, quietly, 100w have re-emerged. The German is wasting his time, unless it's stricter over there.

Go anywhere in the UK and you can buy 100w without problem.

Not sure what happened but hopefully it was a good fingers-up to the EU.
I read somewhere that you could buy the 100w traditional bulbs for "worklights". Which sounds a good excuse, you wouldn't want to operate machinery for example without being able to see what you're doing.

Pints

18,451 posts

224 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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I'll get my flameproofs on but since I use a fraction of the leccy with energy savers over standard bulbs, only paid pennies for them and don't need brighter than daylight in my living room or bedroom, I don't see the issue.
They illuminate instantly, don't buzz and I don't get headaches from them. Why the issue? (Apart from being given our orders by the great socialist engine that is the EU.)

jbi

12,700 posts

234 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Pints said:
I'll get my flameproofs on but since I use a fraction of the leccy with energy savers over standard bulbs, only paid pennies for them and don't need brighter than daylight in my living room or bedroom, I don't see the issue.
They illuminate instantly, don't buzz and I don't get headaches from them. Why the issue? (Apart from being given our orders by the great socialist engine that is the EU.)
full of mercury and many people don't like the fact they take a while to warm up and emit a "poorer" quality of light.

Edited by jbi on Friday 22 October 10:17

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

269 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Energy saving bulbs are fantastic. They use a fraction of the electricity compared to the old filament versions and are just as bright now. They also last much, much longer. I used to get through 7-10 bulbs a year on an outside garden light (which I have 4 of). Since installing energy savers 3 years ago, none of them have needed replacing - that's a saving of 28-40 traditional bulbs and no hassle having to change them in mid-winter.

I also use them internally in quite a few rooms except where recessed halogens have been fitted already.

Funny whenever anything new comes along be it a car design, form of transport or indeed any kind of change, the majority always throw rocks. It's progress and is already widely accepted and in a couple of years everyone is going to wonder why we didn't have these years earlier.

supersingle

3,205 posts

249 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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^ They don't give a good spectrum of light which makes them unpleasant and headache inducing to read by.

Also, they're not nearly as efficient as made out. The makers lie about the light output and they use more power than stated (google power factor).

They exist because the manufacturers lobbied the EU for subsidies and a protected market.

Edited by supersingle on Friday 22 October 08:03

Le TVR

3,097 posts

281 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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supersingle said:
^ They don't give a good spectrum of light which makes them unpleasant and headache inducing to read by.

Also, they're not nearly as efficient as made out. The makers lie about the light output and they use more power than stated (google power factor).

They exist because the manufacturers lobbied the EU for subsidies and a protected market.

Edited by supersingle on Friday 22 October 08:03
Oh yes.

I had some so called "15 watt" energy savers. Guess what was marked on the base of them:

230 volt / 120 mA

They obviously think that the general public don't have any knowledge of maths.

b2hbm

1,301 posts

252 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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^^ I think I agree with that, I'm certainly not convinced about the claimed equivalent light outputs.

I don't think it's a case of knocking progress though; we've currently got 6 installed in our house alongside tungsten filament, halogen spot lights and some fancy LED thingies and to be fair, they work well.

4x15w in a hallway replacing 4x40w bulbs & two outside where the slow warm-up to full performance isn't an issue and you can cope with a bit less light. But that's the limit, the lounge & dining rooms have dimmer switches so they're a no-go, the bedrooms & landing have fancy flower-style lights with candle shaped bulbs so these twirly things would look a real mess.

It just looks like a badly thought out strategy, lobbied by someone on the inside and grabbed by politicians wanting to "do something against climate change". Considering the environmental issues in the manufacture of most of the cheapies we're currently getting, it's a miss on most counts.

sadoksevoli

1,232 posts

287 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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It's all a scam and furthermore the energy-saving lightbulbs will be a disposal nightmare to come.

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/search?q=lightbul...

Tsippy

15,078 posts

199 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Personally we've had issues with energy saver bulbs exploding randomly (three out of six popped this year, with one simply dying - They are Panasonic I believe, provided by Southern Electric as a freebie to help save Polar bears.