19% of households with no one in work
19% of households with no one in work
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sjp63

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1,997 posts

302 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11693308

My maths is poor but if 19% of households in the UK (1 in every 5) has no one in work then that means that UK unemployment would be at least 19% which isnt the case.

What am I missing?

spurs-442

2,753 posts

214 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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sjp63 said:
What am I missing?
Not much - just the usual BBC bks

4mo

1,335 posts

205 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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The ever growing number of pensioners and (until the fees kick in) students

TotalControl

8,307 posts

228 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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sjp63 said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11693308

My maths is poor but if 19% of households in the UK (1 in every 5) has no one in work then that means that UK unemployment would be at least 19% which isnt the case.

What am I missing?
Really? That high? Doubt it.

Unless they are taking a certain age group of home owners?

davido140

9,617 posts

256 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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IIRC they dont count as unemployed if they arent claiming or are not entitled to job seekers allowance. so those with too much savings to claim, those who are unable to work through illness etc.


sjp63

Original Poster:

1,997 posts

302 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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answering my own question i guess that means that the other 81% of households are all jam packed with workers to even out the numbers

BeeRoad

684 posts

192 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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In 2006 18.5% of the population were retired.

tribbles

4,171 posts

252 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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What's the percentage of retired people? They wouldn't be working (technically)...

ETA: Just too late....

Edited by tribbles on Thursday 4th November 17:05

nyxster

1,452 posts

201 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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what you are missing is:

Students,
Pensioners
Prisoners
Illegals
Tax Dodgers
Hookers

and most importantly

middle class sorts who have no work, but have either savings or assets or private redundancy type insurance so have no need/no benefit for claiming benefits.

working as a contractor for a long time i was never entitled to benefits, since even though i had no work as a company director they still said i was employed.

then there are proud folk who just don't sponge off the state. past 15 years of working life i have had long stretches without work that i just got by, did odd jobs or sold stuff and made ends meet.

i reckon the true unemployed taking into account all the city worker and middle management sorts who will have more than the max savings threshold for benefits is well over 6M.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

247 months

Thursday 4th November 2010
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That Liverpool is highest, doesn’t surprise me at all, whilst there will no doubt be at least one feckless idiot posting the same old stereotypical none sense on here, however the issue is a rather serious one as the cost to the country is huge.

Labour in association with Liverpool City Council, poured millions into the city, it has lots of new student accommodation, spent a large fortune on the 2008 Capital of everyone else’s culture programme, has lots of new shops and bars and acres of some of the nicest stone paving I’ve seen a hard up council use!. . . . . . .however, very little has been done to increase the number of jobs available for "normal" people.

You only have to look at what happened to Camel Lairds (yes I know it’s in Birkenhead) to see that the previous government, was happy to sit on its hands as the traditional industries were killed off by foreign competition, anti competitive bureaucracy and a lack of state support when a simple diplomatic solution, would have saved thousands of jobs..

If you want a chuckle, look at the “investments” made by the North West Development agency . . . . . . with very few exceptions, the businesses will simply not be able to employ the average person from the surrounding area, Liverpool needs investment into its infrastructure, to allow it to reclaim its position as one of, if not the most significant transport hubs for goods manufactured in the UK and for accepting raw materials into it, even if those goods and materials are niche hi value items rather than the more traditional timber, cotton and food.