what if benefits worked like student loans

[SplatSpeed]

what if the benefits received were to be paid back in later life, say after someone started earning over 21k or won the lottery.

we use this model for students why not all claiments on job seakers allowance??

[hyperblue]

It might put people off going back to work?

[Toyo Jim]

How much does a years worth of benefits add up to?

[SplatSpeed]

anonymous said:

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no interest in earning over 21K

[SplatSpeed]

Toyo Jim said:

How much does a years worth of benefits add up to?

up to 150K if you know what you are doing!

[Jasandjules]

SplatSpeed said:

up to 150K if you know what you are doing!

[Chris_w666]

It wouldn't work for those that the country really needs to get off benefits.

[Plotloss]

So when I paid more in tax every month for 10+ years than I took out in 6 months following redundancy I'd have to pay that back again?

On your bike.

[Tumbler]

The better model, is for benefits to be based on what you have paid in.

[SplatSpeed]

Plotloss said:

So when I paid more in tax every month for 10+ years than I took out in 6 months following redundancy I'd have to pay that back again?

On your bike.

i expect as much from such a lefty

you would pay less tax as a result!

[BrassMan]

anonymous said:

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^That.

The benefits trap got bad enough thanks. We want to undo Brown's legacy.

[jeff m]

Tumbler said:

The better model, is for benefits to be based on what you have paid in.

But would require common sense and logic, most of which appears to have been diluted.

[jeff m]

How is the current unemployment benefit calculated now?
Eons ago I claimed unemployment while I was playing squash, it was based on what I had previously earnt as it had an earnings related component.

(I know claiming is now considered to be.....well...not good, but at that time there was very little unemployment and I did supplement my existance with my own money)
Ex pat US based.

[PintOfKittens]

How benefits should work is:

• You get given a flat by the govt. None of this "I want to live in knightsbrige 5 bedroom house" bks
• You get given food stamps, or food delivered to your door. Tesco value loafs of bread, tesco value cheese, a bit of greens and a lump of what is claimed to be meat.
• Food, housing, heating provided for you, but you get no cash at all
• Metered electricity so that if you try to plug in a tv, it will use up all your credit, and your stuck without electricity for the rest of the week/month
• You work 10 hours a day, 5 days a week like everyone else - clearing the streets of rubbish, cleaning up graffiti, work in hospitals cleaning floors etc - for the UK Department of Manual Labour
• If you dont work, you dont get food that week, after a month, you get evicted.
• You can earn some money and time off if you work longer hours, do night shifts, do more risky jobs, be a servant in an army camp (cleaning peoples kit, weapons etc).
• Criminal conviction = you loose all benefits for a year, thrown out onto the street, your stuff forcefully taken back and sold/given to someone else
• If your unemployed, get pregnant and then try to live on the dole - your kid gets taken away from you, given to a foster family, and you get sterilised - or you provide for it yourself (ie. booted out, live on the street)
• Drug addict = two options - go on a drug rehab (which consists of cold turkey, strapped to a bed for a week/month/however long it takes), or fk off. Repeated drug offenders will be donated to medical schools to practice procedures on live patients.
• Bearded git waving a hook demanding everyones death - be used as live target practice for the army.

[snotrag]

So your pretty relaxed about it then POK?

I jest - your right and I agree.

[PintOfKittens]

snotrag said:

So your pretty relaxed about it then POK?

I jest - your right and I agree.

Really tired of me working 6 days a week, having 40% of my salary taken off me to fund a bunch of chav scum criminal fkers.

[Willie Dee]

SplatSpeed said:

Toyo Jim said:

How much does a years worth of benefits add up to?

up to 150K if you know what you are doing!

Lol source?

[GestapoWatch]

PintOfKittens said:

How benefits should work is:

• You get given a flat by the govt. None of this "I want to live in knightsbrige 5 bedroom house" bks
• You get given food stamps, or food delivered to your door. Tesco value loafs of bread, tesco value cheese, a bit of greens and a lump of what is claimed to be meat.
• Food, housing, heating provided for you, but you get no cash at all
• Metered electricity so that if you try to plug in a tv, it will use up all your credit, and your stuck without electricity for the rest of the week/month
• You work 10 hours a day, 5 days a week like everyone else - clearing the streets of rubbish, cleaning up graffiti, work in hospitals cleaning floors etc - for the UK Department of Manual Labour
• If you dont work, you dont get food that week, after a month, you get evicted.
• You can earn some money and time off if you work longer hours, do night shifts, do more risky jobs, be a servant in an army camp (cleaning peoples kit, weapons etc).
• Criminal conviction = you loose all benefits for a year, thrown out onto the street, your stuff forcefully taken back and sold/given to someone else
• If your unemployed, get pregnant and then try to live on the dole - your kid gets taken away from you, given to a foster family, and you get sterilised - or you provide for it yourself (ie. booted out, live on the street)
• Drug addict = two options - go on a drug rehab (which consists of cold turkey, strapped to a bed for a week/month/however long it takes), or fk off. Repeated drug offenders will be donated to medical schools to practice procedures on live patients.
• Bearded git waving a hook demanding everyones death - be used as live target practice for the army.

Looks great when laid out like that and I would love to see it implemented.

So why can't it? Also why can't we round up and banish to a remote island those who say they have no interest in behaving like the rest of us? Why do we keep them and pay for them? I've never understood it

[Chris_w666]

Willie Dee said:

SplatSpeed said:

Toyo Jim said:

How much does a years worth of benefits add up to?

up to 150K if you know what you are doing!

Lol source?

Either the Daily Mail, or by totalling up what a large family could get benefits to the equivalent of per year if they live in an expensive area, have health issues (free prescriptions), and one or two disabled people in the household.

To get to £150k you would need the rent and council tax rates to be very high but it is probably doable in one or two extreme cases.

[PintOfKittens]

GestapoWatch said:

So why can't it? Also why can't we round up and banish to a remote island those who say they have no interest in behaving like the rest of us? Why do we keep them and pay for them? I've never understood it

Yoomin rights innit blud