Cameron on Marr - The Unions

[paddyhasneeds]

Nice to see a quite refreshing "fk Off" to the unions threats/rhetoric.

I wonder what Miliband's stance would be?

(before the inevitable comments unions do have their place, I'm talking about the veiled threats to bring the country to its knees)

[Tsippy]

The Unions would not be sabre rattling if Labour were still in power.

[EDLT]

Tsippy said:

The Unions would not be sabre rattling if Labour were still in power.

Of course not, they'd have a puppet as PM.

[Chris_w666]

I have honestly always wanted to work somewhere that have these halfwits threatening strike action just so I could bait them by totally ignoring their strikes.

Surely there are enough unemployed people in this country to just sack the lazy barstewards who won't work.

[eldar]

paddyhasneeds said:

Nice to see a quite refreshing "fk Off" to the unions threats/rhetoric.

I wonder what Miliband's stance would be?

(before the inevitable comments unions do have their place, I'm talking about the veiled threats to bring the country to its knees)

Unions do have their place. Looking after the welfare of their members. Not playing politics and pretending they run the country by bribing the labour party.

[powerstroke]

Chris_w666 said:

I have honestly always wanted to work somewhere that have these halfwits threatening strike action just so I could bait them by totally ignoring their strikes.

Surely there are enough unemployed people in this country to just sack the lazy barstewards who won't work.

sadly I think you would find they were even lazyier barsstewards

[sidicks]

Chris_w666 said:

I have honestly always wanted to work somewhere that have these halfwits threatening strike action just so I could bait them by totally ignoring their strikes.

Surely there are enough unemployed people in this country to just sack the lazy barstewards who won't work.

What about their 'ooman rights' ?


Sidicks

[Tsippy]

Chris_w666 said:

I have honestly always wanted to work somewhere that have these halfwits threatening strike action just so I could bait them by totally ignoring their strikes.

Surely there are enough unemployed people in this country to just sack the lazy barstewards who won't work.

You'd think so wouldn't you? But for some reason we don't do it, maybe Union uprisings allow new laws and taxes to be passed under the radar whilst the media focuses on the thugs trying to ruin peoples lives. ie The Unions serve a purpose for government

[crankedup]

Union threatens to hold Country to ransom if demands are not met.

Banks threaten to leave Country if demands are not met.

[Dixie68]

Chris_w666 said:

I have honestly always wanted to work somewhere that have these halfwits threatening strike action just so I could bait them by totally ignoring their strikes.

Surely there are enough unemployed people in this country to just sack the lazy barstewards who won't work.

I do - an industry where the RMT are the main union. In the five years I've been in the industry, strikes have been called at least twice every year yet neither I or any of my colleagues have stopped working.
I have been known to give the pickets a cheery wave as I've driven into work.

[ukwill]

Why can Unions in other countries manage to look after their members without continued veiled threats to "bring the country to its knees"?

In general, why are most UK TUC types dinosaurs?

[johnfm]

ukwill said:

Why can Unions in other countries manage to look after their members without continued veiled threats to "bring the country to its knees"?

In general, why are most UK TUC types dinosaurs?

You mean like the french who have recently been holding executives hostage (literally) in negotiations until their terms are met.

[ukwill]

johnfm said:

ukwill said:

Why can Unions in other countries manage to look after their members without continued veiled threats to "bring the country to its knees"?

In general, why are most UK TUC types dinosaurs?

You mean like the french who have recently been holding executives hostage (literally) in negotiations until their terms are met.

I'm pretty sure I said other countries, and didn't specifically say the French. I think we all know what the French are like, although their militancy always tends to end up getting them nothing.

[Tsippy]

ukwill said:

johnfm said:

ukwill said:

Why can Unions in other countries manage to look after their members without continued veiled threats to "bring the country to its knees"?

In general, why are most UK TUC types dinosaurs?

You mean like the french who have recently been holding executives hostage (literally) in negotiations until their terms are met.

I'm pretty sure I said other countries, and didn't specifically say the French. I think we all know what the French are like, although their militancy always tends to end up getting them nothing.

Many French are getting pissed off with the country coming to a halt everytime the public sector want to throw their rattles out the pram.

Edited by Tsippy on Sunday 9th January 17:09

[heebeegeetee]

ukwill said:

I think we all know what the French are like, although their militancy always tends to end up getting them nothing.

You reckon? Have you been there lately?

[Jasandjules]

Well there is always a happy medium with this kind of thing. I don't think however the the Unions are interested in that, instead simply believing they hold all the cards - As another poster said, there are enough people looking for work to replace those who don't want to.

But on the flip side we don't want to return to a state of practically legalised slavery in the employee/employer relationship, regardless of who that employer is.

[ukwill]

heebeegeetee said:

ukwill said:

I think we all know what the French are like, although their militancy always tends to end up getting them nothing.

You reckon? Have you been there lately?

Yes, unfortunately far too many times. My outlaws are French. For their sins. (Although to be fair, they both have nothing but contempt for the militants).

[1A]

crankedup said:

Union threatens to hold Country to ransom if demands are not met.

Banks threaten to leave Country if demands are not met.

Labour PM caves to unions because they own his party. Labour PM caves to banks because his party is £14m in debt to those banks and they will foreclose if he doesn't.

At least the current lot can argue the toss with the banks without being threatened by personal bankruptcy like feckless labour were.

[davepoth]

paddyhasneeds said:

I wonder what Miliband's stance would be?

Given how he was made Labour leader, I guess his stance would be bending over.

[nutcase]

I missed the interview this morning, is it hosted anywhere online yet- or do I have to wait until it appears on bbc iplayer?