Ivory Coast - 1000 people killed
Ivory Coast - 1000 people killed
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HD Adam

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5,155 posts

214 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Aid workers have found 1000 people killed in the Ivory Coast in a battle between supporters of the opposition (who won last Novembers election) and President Gbagbo, who refuses to step down.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/iv...

1000 people? That's probably more than Libya scratchchin

So, when does the submarine get there to fire Tomahawks and the "No Fly" zone start? getmecoat

Bing o

15,184 posts

249 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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We won't get involved. Which is both sad and ironic as we'd probably be quite welcomed there, unlike in Librakistan....

Godzuki

73,668 posts

285 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Plenty of places in the world where murder and massacre is a daily thing. Oddly enough I doubt there is oil there.

Jasandjules

72,631 posts

259 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Godzuki said:
Plenty of places in the world where murder and massacre is a daily thing. Oddly enough I doubt there is oil there.
Quite a lot of them in Africa too. This is just another one and no, I don't believe there is a sufficient supply of oil to "justify" any Western involvement - it costs money to send in the troops after all.

elster

17,517 posts

240 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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The thing is the Northern African countries have been stable with their dictators and are looking to move into elections.

A lot of Central and Western countries have already had their civil wars and the UN have parachuted their candidates in and run a "fair" election.

The people don't like this and civil war continues.

Not an oil issue, just they are still in the civil war stage much like the Northern African states, however much further on.

There has been a lot of UN involvement in these.

Just because the TV doesn't tell you something is going on, doesn't mean there is nothing going on.

Remember when Gbagbo came to power 10 years ago exactly the same happened.

The 'rebels' go along massacring while the person the UN want in power gets protected by the UN and kept in safety.

BoRED S2upid

21,072 posts

270 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Isn't it about time we ruled the world again like the good old times, it seems every country outside of Europe is going to the dogs recently.

dandarez

14,036 posts

313 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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We won't interfere there, no oh eye hell, but lots and lots of cocoa beans, so regardless, up'll go the price of your choccy bar now!

Fairtrade won't be happy. Perhaps the 7-year old kids scaling the trees for cocoa pods might get a kit-kat break now?

What a f mad world we live in.

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Technically we're already in the Ivory Coast - The UN has nearly 10,000 troops there. It's actually what a UN mission should look like with 30+ nations involved.

http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/missions/unoci/f...

Tsippy

15,078 posts

199 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Hasn't there been trouble in the Ivory Coast for a number of years now? One of my team mates was from there, and ten years ago he was telling me about mass killings in his home country.

elster

17,517 posts

240 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Tsippy said:
Hasn't there been trouble in the Ivory Coast for a number of years now? One of my team mates was from there, and ten years ago he was telling me about mass killings in his home country.
That would be the last election with the UN favourite president taking power and the former ruler not wanting to go, same thing again this time round.

Tsippy

15,078 posts

199 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Cheers, I know that the troubles were one of many reasons that he relocated his family to France (luckily he had sporting ability so was able to move easily)

andy43

13,267 posts

284 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Ivory Coast
Terrorists? X
Oil? X
That'll be a no-go then.

ATG

23,817 posts

302 months

Sunday 3rd April 2011
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Well, it would be intervention on the ground or no intervention at all. They're not using planes and artillery, so there's nothing to attack from the air or with cruise missiles. After Somalia, you're not likely to see boots on the ground except in a peace keeping role.

elster

17,517 posts

240 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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andy43 said:
Ivory Coast
Terrorists? X
Oil? X
That'll be a no-go then.
I would do a bit of reading up.

They are 20 years further on in the process of democracy.

The only issue is the UN deciding who they want in, and getting it wrong.

Disgusted

853 posts

220 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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elster said:
I would do a bit of reading up.

They are 20 years further on in the process of democracy.

The only issue is the UN deciding who they want in, and getting it wrong.
This is the trouble: the UN and particularly the French have been on the ground in Ivory Coast for some years (and have been involved in some serious fighting, including the destruction of the IC air force).

Despite this 3/4 of posters above decide that the West and/or the UN "won't" get involved because, apparently, there's no oil.

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

278 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Al Jazeera don't pull any punches when it comes to showing graphic news coverage. People being beaten and burnt to death. God that was grim frown


Mr Dave

3,233 posts

225 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Balmoral Green said:
Al Jazeera don't pull any punches when it comes to showing graphic news coverage. People being beaten and burnt to death. God that was grim frown
I think if the BBC was more like this it wouldnt be a bad thing. The worlds a horrible place and we as a society tend to shield ourselves from it, thankfully we usually can in the UK. I just think it leads to a lot of people having a very sheltered view of the world.

andy_s

19,856 posts

289 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Bagbo now resigning from his cellar; from UN.