Farage stays on as UKIP leader
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Jinx said:
MGJohn said:
Or Westminster come to that. Love the way our media luvvies tried in vain to score points of him and time and again failed miserably to do so.
For someone "all on his own", those four million votes obviously count for nowt in the thicko mindsets of some. Even the now Desperate Dave has had no alternative but to take that into account now at the top of his EU agenda on an increasingly timely basis. Too right and long overdue. Boy will he have to work hard to get a result that pleases not simply UKIP voters, but the back benchers who also have strong views on our current relationship within the EU whilst at the same time satisfying the Tory Party Paymasters who will always call the tune. Not to mention the many folks I know who voted Tory whilst hoping the salient features within UKIP's policies will also come to pass.
Just because rather more than UKIP's four million voted Tory, does not automatically mean Tory voters reject all of UKIP's policy.
Little has been said of the local council results as well. UKIP up 176 seats and gained their first council (Thanet) . That's a lot of local support.For someone "all on his own", those four million votes obviously count for nowt in the thicko mindsets of some. Even the now Desperate Dave has had no alternative but to take that into account now at the top of his EU agenda on an increasingly timely basis. Too right and long overdue. Boy will he have to work hard to get a result that pleases not simply UKIP voters, but the back benchers who also have strong views on our current relationship within the EU whilst at the same time satisfying the Tory Party Paymasters who will always call the tune. Not to mention the many folks I know who voted Tory whilst hoping the salient features within UKIP's policies will also come to pass.
Just because rather more than UKIP's four million voted Tory, does not automatically mean Tory voters reject all of UKIP's policy.
... FAT CHANCE .... There's millyons of them ......
nothing but a stunt.
Well, in his own words.
In the event, however, he doesn't have to worry about this - because he doesn't really have a UKIP Parliamentary Party to worry about: Carswell is looking so shell-shocked that I doubt he'll say boo to a goose for the rest of his tenure, and the prospect of gaining further MPs via defection has vanished - any MP worried about a thin majority and thinking of jumping ship to UKIP can now see what happened to Reckless (and a lesser extent Carswell), and will quickly think again.
That doesn't mean to say he won't have to endure having that quote thrown at him through countless interviews from now on, and it will be interesting to see if he can keep control of his temper as a result.
Nigel Farage - The Purple Revolution - Chapter 8 said:
The consequences of me failing to secure a seat for myself in the Commons would be significant for both myself and the party. It is frankly just not credible for me to continue to lead the party without a Westminster seat. What credibility would UKIP have in the Commons if others had to enunciate party policy in Parliament and the party leader was only allowed in as a guest? Was I supposed to brief UKIP policy from the Westminster Arms? No – if I fail to win South Thanet, it is curtains for me. I will have to step down.
I can see why Nigel has changed his mind though - it seems clear that when he wrote that he was doing so expecting that there would be a respectable number of UKIP MPs after the election, and the prospect of him having to exert leadership over the Parliamentary party whilst not actually holding a seat himself would, indeed, lead to questions about the credibility of UKIP in the Commons, and his credibility as leader.In the event, however, he doesn't have to worry about this - because he doesn't really have a UKIP Parliamentary Party to worry about: Carswell is looking so shell-shocked that I doubt he'll say boo to a goose for the rest of his tenure, and the prospect of gaining further MPs via defection has vanished - any MP worried about a thin majority and thinking of jumping ship to UKIP can now see what happened to Reckless (and a lesser extent Carswell), and will quickly think again.
That doesn't mean to say he won't have to endure having that quote thrown at him through countless interviews from now on, and it will be interesting to see if he can keep control of his temper as a result.
Edited by eharding on Monday 11th May 17:11
Greg66 said:
Ayahuasca said:
UKIP has rejected his resignation?
Does this mean he has written to himself to reject his own resignation?
He could always reject his resignation rejection and stay resigned.
Does this mean he has written to himself to reject his own resignation?
He could always reject his resignation rejection and stay resigned.
Clegg says he's going, and goes. Miliband says he's going, and again, he goes. Mainstream politicians, the slippery-as-a-barrel-of-eels types. The ones you can't trust to keep their word.
Farage, as we all know, is the honest one, the one who you can trust, the man who absolutely stands by his word. And yet, curiously, the one who sticks around, as we all knew he would. The party faithful may applaud it, but the general public won't forget.
longblackcoat said:
Greg66 said:
Ayahuasca said:
UKIP has rejected his resignation?
Does this mean he has written to himself to reject his own resignation?
He could always reject his resignation rejection and stay resigned.
Does this mean he has written to himself to reject his own resignation?
He could always reject his resignation rejection and stay resigned.
Clegg says he's going, and goes. Miliband says he's going, and again, he goes. Mainstream politicians, the slippery-as-a-barrel-of-eels types. The ones you can't trust to keep their word.
Farage, as we all know, is the honest one, the one who you can trust, the man who absolutely stands by his word. And yet, curiously, the one who sticks around, as we all knew he would. The party faithful may applaud it, but the general public won't forget.
No matter how much mud is slung, people love him.
4 MILLION VOTES.
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