Farage stays on as UKIP leader
Discussion
Bill said:
steveT350C said:
Spin spin spin...if you bothered to even hint at being objective and open minded, you would notice that Labour are all out sticking the knives into Ed about now, and nobody in the LibDumbs is exactly falling over themselves to drag Cleggie back...
He honored his word and quit, the party realise that he is their best chance at leading the party forward, so got behind him.
no matter what way you want to spin it, the simple fact nobody was going to stab him in the back speaks volumes, not just for Farage, but for the rest of the party.
Dog Star said:
Four million votes, 170(?) council seats.
There was never a need to resign, that's a fantastic achievement, whether you like him or not. He should be proud, not resign.
No one said he should resign ala Cleggy and Millibrain.NF himself said he would resign should he fail to win Thanet South. People are merely commenting, and criticising on why he has gone back on his own word.There was never a need to resign, that's a fantastic achievement, whether you like him or not. He should be proud, not resign.
valiant said:
No one said he should resign ala Cleggy and Millibrain.NF himself said he would resign should he fail to win Thanet South. People are merely commenting, and criticising on why he has gone back on his own word.
Which idiot thinks he didn't resign?Go on, point yourselves out. Give us a laugh.
I was expecting him to be re-elected in September. Let's face it, the part is nothing without him really, and he has done a fantastic job of getting third in the election VOTES received. Think about that for a second, he got more votes than the SNP, he get more votes than the Lib Dems, and more votes than the Greens.
NicD said:
If you are not a UKIP voter then stick your head where it belongs
If you are a UKIP voter and disagree with the Executive, tell them , don't tell us.
Who's the 'us'? May be a surprise to you but this is a public thread and if Farage wants to be taken seriously it's the general public he has to appeal to, not the party faithful.If you are a UKIP voter and disagree with the Executive, tell them , don't tell us.
longblackcoat][NicD said:
If you are not a UKIP voter then stick your head where it belongs
If you are a UKIP voter and disagree with the Executive, tell them , don't tell us.[/quote
Who's the 'us'? May be a surprise to you but this is a public thread and if Farage wants to be taken seriously it's the general public he has to appeal to, not the party faithful.
It is not you, no matter how self important you may feel.If you are a UKIP voter and disagree with the Executive, tell them , don't tell us.[/quote
Who's the 'us'? May be a surprise to you but this is a public thread and if Farage wants to be taken seriously it's the general public he has to appeal to, not the party faithful.
His job was/is to deliver votes. He has done that quite spectacularly, arguably more so than CMD or Nicola. Im not a great lover of PR to be honest, but I can certainly see a damn good reason why I would be livid if I was Farage or a Kipper that my outstanding GE performance wasn't really recognised.
I don't like the direction UKIP has taken over the last 18months but Ive said it before and Ill say it again, Farage is an outstandingly successful politician and tactician, far better than I ever would be. I can see the allure of saying UKIP are at a higher water mark and that its downwards only from here, well given Farage's track record of delivering and driving UKIP to success, then frankly I wouldn't be so sure.
Next two years will be interesting times! My instincts chime more with CMD and his liberal conservatism, but he is nowhere near as good a politician as Farage - for that he needs Lynton! Small majority govt require political nous, we shall see how CMD fares!
I don't like the direction UKIP has taken over the last 18months but Ive said it before and Ill say it again, Farage is an outstandingly successful politician and tactician, far better than I ever would be. I can see the allure of saying UKIP are at a higher water mark and that its downwards only from here, well given Farage's track record of delivering and driving UKIP to success, then frankly I wouldn't be so sure.
Next two years will be interesting times! My instincts chime more with CMD and his liberal conservatism, but he is nowhere near as good a politician as Farage - for that he needs Lynton! Small majority govt require political nous, we shall see how CMD fares!
GetCarter said:
Votes or not, at least we now all know he is not a man of his word.
There's a surprise.
Ok, you're not a stupid person, so please care to explain how you have come to this conclusion?There's a surprise.
You are not arguing that he tendered his resignation?
If a CEO tenders his resignation to the board, and they refuse to accept it, how is that breaking his word?
You want him to go all dogmatic and refuse?
Scuffers said:
Ok, you're not a stupid person, so please care to explain how you have come to this conclusion?
You are not arguing that he tendered his resignation?
If a CEO tenders his resignation to the board, and they refuse to accept it, how is that breaking his word?
You want him to go all dogmatic and refuse?
These few idiots think we are as unthinking as them, no other explanation, (except too many tinnies)You are not arguing that he tendered his resignation?
If a CEO tenders his resignation to the board, and they refuse to accept it, how is that breaking his word?
You want him to go all dogmatic and refuse?
NicD said:
RYH64E said:
So now we know that Farage is no different to any other slippery politician, I don't think this move will do his reputation for straight talking any good.
Luckily what you think matters not a jotWhat would you be saying if some EU politician had pulled the same stunt? I think we all know the answer to that.
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