Who are you going to vote for in 2015

[Art0ir]

pcvdriver said:

Just because anyone can post, doesn't everyone mean does..

Well that's their choice isn't it? You seem very angry.

[citizensm1th]

Greg66 said:

You realise that unless you are a Tory voter, voting UKIP is not going to split the Tory vote, don't you? Your change of vote will do nothing more than contribute to a possible rearrangement of the candidates in second place and below. To unseat tot Tory incumbent your best bet is either for him to lose voters (which you can't contribute to) or for more people to vote LD (as you already have. Switching your vote to UKIP is *less* likely to unseat the Tory.

I am banking on two things at the next election

1. Disaffected tories jumping to ukip and lowering the incumbents majority
2 The liberal vote collapsing due to the liberals getting into bed with the tories.

now I know that for both of these things to happen in large enough numbers is a long shot and very unlikely.
But a large enough ukip polling at the next election will drive the tory party further to the right, now that is what I want. If my vote can help push the tories towards the right and out of the centre ground job done for me.

Where I live my vote means bugger all, a party of the left is unlikely to win in the near future. But I can add to the impression that ukip are gaining votes in safe tory seats. In seats like the one I live in and if I was a labour party strategist id be quietly guiding the local party members to vote ukip just to scare the tories in to a lurch to the right.

The next election is not an important one for me as I do not believe labour is in a position to win with the current leadership . labour need to be working towards the election after which I believe we will have a split between ukip/tory on one side and a very much diminished liberal party in the centre.

[einsign]

Ozzie Osmond said:

The risk is, of course, that voting for UKIP will simply let Labour in through the back door...

[RYH64E]

einsign said:

Ozzie Osmond said:

The risk is, of course, that voting for UKIP will simply let Labour in through the back door...

Still true though.

[Bradgate]

citizensm1th said:

I am banking on two things at the next election

1. Disaffected tories jumping to ukip and lowering the incumbents majority
2 The liberal vote collapsing due to the liberals getting into bed with the tories.

now I know that for both of these things to happen in large enough numbers is a long shot and very unlikely.
But a large enough ukip polling at the next election will drive the tory party further to the right, now that is what I want. If my vote can help push the tories towards the right and out of the centre ground job done for me.

Where I live my vote means bugger all, a party of the left is unlikely to win in the near future. But I can add to the impression that ukip are gaining votes in safe tory seats. In seats like the one I live in and if I was a labour party strategist id be quietly guiding the local party members to vote ukip just to scare the tories in to a lurch to the right.

The next election is not an important one for me as I do not believe labour is in a position to win with the current leadership . labour need to be working towards the election after which I believe we will have a split between ukip/tory on one side and a very much diminished liberal party in the centre.

Like you, I live in a safe Tory seat, but would prefer that situation to change. Therefore, my current plan is to :

1, Register as a UKIP supporter and get them to send me lots of posters, leaflets, car stickers etc.
2, Deliver the leaflets and festoon my house and car with this bumf, ie campaign for the UKIP candidate.
3, Having done my best to split the right-wing vote, use my own vote tactically for the candidate best placed to beat the Tory, ie the LibDem.

It might just work

[Andehh]

Would vote UKIP but I am too st scared of Labour getting in, as a result will vote for the Tories despite my displeasure towards them these days.

[Elroy Blue]

I assume you're happy voting for a Prime Minister that promotes his green agenda to the benefit of his family. His Father in law (by pure coincidence) is involved in wind turbines. Cameron took him along at Tax payers expense on his recent visit to China in order to pursue those business interests. I'm sure it was for the UK's benefit though

[plasticpig]

Elroy Blue said:

I assume you're happy voting for a Prime Minister that promotes his green agenda to the benefit of his family. His Father in law (by pure coincidence) is involved in wind turbines. Cameron took him along at Tax payers expense on his recent visit to China in order to pursue those business interests. I'm sure it was for the UK's benefit though

There is no evidence to indicate that UKIP politicians are any different. Quite the contrary; they appear as eager to quaff from the public trough as any other politician.

[MarshPhantom]

einsign said:

Ozzie Osmond said:

The risk is, of course, that voting for UKIP will simply let Labour in through the back door...

I don't think Labour will need letting in through the back door.

[Morningside]

Disillusioned Liberal voters will vote Labour. A lot of Tory voters will vote UKIP and split the vote and therefore Milliband will get in.

Milliband will be a total puppet and people will start to get annoyed with him after about 2 years where I suspect he will make a huge cock-up with something or another, totally destroy public trust and will be chucked out of office.

Either that or David will be slowly let back into the fold come the middle of this year ready to save the party.

[einsign]

If labour get in I would seriously consider moving elsewhere, this country would be doomed.

[powerstroke]

einsign said:

If labour get in I would seriously consider moving elsewhere, this country would be doomed.

Me also or at least some damage limitation maybe cashing some assets , where to go ??? Money in dollars , gold ???

[anonymous-user]

citizensm1th said:

But a large enough ukip polling at the next election will drive the tory party further to the right, now that is what I want. If my vote can help push the tories towards the right and out of the centre ground job done for me.

Interesting. In some ways I see a parallel between the Republicans and the Tea Party in the US and UKIP and the Tories here. My guess (and that's all it is) is that we're UKIP to gain significant ground at the next GE, it would be more likely to push the Tories towards the centre, not the right: they'd position themselves as a Centrist small Govt, pro business, low tax party.

I'd also guess that UKIP's policies will be eviscerated before the next GE: unfunded, unfundable, unworkable, and likely to lead to economic turmoil. Whether one agrees with that is not really the point. That's how they will be portrayed, and like it or not a relatively small percentage of the population have an appetite for risk on that scale.

The LDs are going to take a hammering, being perceived as traitors to their core beliefs and also copping the blame for not making the Tories into LDs. Unrealistic, but that's life. I'd be quite surprised to see Clegg survive a big electoral loss. If Lab then needed a coalition partner (which is depressingly unlikely, given the LDs refusal to cooperate on boundary changes), a new LD leader would open the door to them signing up with Labour. It is deeply worrying that they would be unwilling to rein in the more extravagent Labour tax policies, being a high tax party themselves with some pretty nutty ideas.

It's all very depressing. It seems that many Tory voters wanted Thatcher II and the country restored to economic full power and punching hard in Europe in an in realistically short timescale. That was never going to happend given the depth of st we were in in 2010.

[citizensm1th]

queue don't forget to turn the lights out/ don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out type comments

[citizensm1th]

Greg66 said:

Interesting. In some ways I see a parallel between the Republicans and the Tea Party in the US and UKIP and the Tories here. My guess (and that's all it is) is that we're UKIP to gain significant ground at the next GE, it would be more likely to push the Tories towards the centre, not the right: they'd position themselves as a Centrist small Govt, pro business, low tax party.

I think if ukip do gain ground it will split the tory party

right wing tories will flock towards an anti e.u. party where the tory wets will hang on to a rump tory party

all good as far as im concerned

[porridge]

RYH64E said:

einsign said:

Ozzie Osmond said:

The risk is, of course, that voting for UKIP will simply let Labour in through the back door...

Still true though.

[anonymous-user]

porridge said:

Whilst these pictures and very entertaining, and no doubt save a thousand words at a time, are you really saying that a vote for UKIP *won't* benefit Labour at the next GE? If so, how?

[anonymous-user]

I can't vote for any of the mainstream parties, they all just spout the same st. playing at controlling a economy, and as much as I think we should blame someone else, the euro zone, in reality the world economy is so in-twinned, clear culprits to blame are unfathomable.

so Green party for me, can't imagine they will fk it up more than the others.

[porridge]

Greg66 said:

It's all very depressing. It seems that many Tory voters wanted Thatcher II and the country restored to economic full power and punching hard in Europe in an in realistically short timescale. That was never going to happend given the depth of st we were in in 2010.

Tory voters wanted more than a spineless, conviction-less politician. If Cameron had actually believed in anything and stood up for it then fair enough even if I disagreed, instead U-Turns by the week and he has chosen to pass the buck down to the next elections over important decisions needed today.

There will be little difference if Labour get in, they know they have a spending limit, and the countries mood on issues such as easy benefits has changed.

[Art0ir]

The Spruce goose said:

I can't vote for any of the mainstream parties, they all just spout the same st. playing at controlling a economy, and as much as I think we should blame someone else, the euro zone, in reality the world economy is so in-twinned, clear culprits to blame are unfathomable.

so Green party for me, can't imagine they will fk it up more than the others.

Have you ever listened to them? They are socialists (real socialists) that want every part of the economy regulated and micromanaged!