Odds-On Gambling?
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paddyhasneeds

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59,565 posts

226 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Curious if anyone has any experience of odds-on gambling to make a little extra pocket money?

Of course there's a risk that you lose your stake, and it's different when you're not staking a tenner or so on a game, but ignoring the amount of money and simply playing the odds, I can't help but wonder if sticking a tenner on Man United in every match they play would statistically and consistently mean you end the year a lot better off than if you'd kept putting a tenner in the bank and making 2.5%?

russ_a

4,705 posts

227 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Just have a look at last years results and work it out.

JxT

339 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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paddyhasneeds said:
I can't help but wonder if sticking a tenner on Man United in every match they play would statistically and consistently mean you end the year a lot better off than if you'd kept putting a tenner in the bank and making 2.5%?
Are you trolling?

Truckosaurus

12,710 posts

300 months

Tuesday 16th August 2011
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Spending 2 minutes on oddschecker and wikipedia shows that you might get 4/6 on a Man Utd victory, and last season they won 23 from 28 league games.

If you got those odds for every game and bet a tenner each game you'd make a profit of £3 at the end of the season.

Bing o

15,184 posts

235 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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Truckosaurus said:
Spending 2 minutes on oddschecker and wikipedia shows that you might get 4/6 on a Man Utd victory, and last season they won 23 from 28 league games.

If you got those odds for every game and bet a tenner each game you'd make a profit of £3 at the end of the season.
No. They drew 11 and lost 4 out of 38 games, winning 23. No such thing as odds on. Unless you are opening up a bookies? smile

Truckosaurus

12,710 posts

300 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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Bing o said:
No. They drew 11 and lost 4 out of 38 games, winning 23. No such thing as odds on. Unless you are opening up a bookies? smile
Indeed, a typo on my behalf... I got the numbers in my sums right though, so the initial claim that you'd effectively break even is correct. Still a mug's game.

Bing o

15,184 posts

235 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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Truckosaurus said:
Bing o said:
No. They drew 11 and lost 4 out of 38 games, winning 23. No such thing as odds on. Unless you are opening up a bookies? smile
Indeed, a typo on my behalf... I got the numbers in my sums right though, so the initial claim that you'd effectively break even is correct. Still a mug's game.
So you did chap!

RemainAllHoof

78,760 posts

298 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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The odds are pretty well-calculated for each game so you will break even or be slightly under depending on which service you use. For a month, I tried using something more complicated than "back the favourite in every game" based on one team scoring a goal in the first half and even that had me around break-even less commission on Betfair. Doing it at a normal bookmakers would have me losing more overall as the odds are not so good usually.

Beardy10

24,549 posts

191 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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I bet strictly for fun on Betfair and only now and then....mostly on cricket but also on football. I like being able to lay bets....my personal view is that you are a little ahead of the game when laying bets as you obviously have to put a decent amount of money at risk to win anything....and a lot of people won't do that.

Football I probably break even on football over all but I normally do okay on cricket...touch wood. There seem to be more anomalies or what I would call very good risk/reward bets in cricket compared to other sports.

paddyhasneeds

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59,565 posts

226 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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Beardy10 said:
I bet strictly for fun on Betfair and only now and then....
That's my intention. I put in £20 a couple of weeks back so far I'm up to £73. Of course there's a world of difference between punting a tenner on Man United/Barca or whoever tends to consistently win, and having the balls to have a larger risk for larger reward.

Put it this way, if you took City vs. Swansea my "pot" was at about £50 so I put it all on City as to my mind I'd be losing my initial £20.

Would I have been prepared to put a grand on them? Not a fking chance, I don't get how people can do that.

F458

1,009 posts

185 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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8.10 Hereford - Thespis of Icaria - Bet to win

Edited by F458 on Wednesday 17th August 18:22

RemainAllHoof

78,760 posts

298 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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paddyhasneeds said:
Would I have been prepared to put a grand on them? Not a fking chance, I don't get how people can do that.
By starting with £100 then slowly building up as their account grows over months or years. Or getting investors.

F458

1,009 posts

185 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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Won smile SP - 1.80 Betfair SP 2.05
Will use SP though so +0.80pts

russ_a

4,705 posts

227 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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A friend of mine tries systems like this all the time and has never won yet.

The only system that had any merit in my opinion was where you placed an initial stake on an evens or greater bet and then doubled your stake everytime until you won

craigjm

19,540 posts

216 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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Have you ever seen a poor bookie? No and that is all you need to know about making money as a punter. Mugs game.

RemainAllHoof

78,760 posts

298 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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russ_a said:
The only system that had any merit in my opinion was where you placed an initial stake on an evens or greater bet and then doubled your stake everytime until you won
That only works for so long... unless you have an infinite bank account.

RemainAllHoof

78,760 posts

298 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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craigjm said:
Have you ever seen a poor bookie? No and that is all you need to know about making money as a punter. Mugs game.
All lies. Please place bets on football matches on Betfair.com, particularly the Matched Odds market. Tell your friends.

sinizter

3,348 posts

202 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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There is no odds-on gambling, but there is matched betting to make extra pocket money.

There was odds-on gambling a few years ago, with blackjack and casino account opening offers, but those are long gone - this was good money while I was in uni.

Mr POD

5,153 posts

208 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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Try the stock exchange!!!

I bought some shares about 3 months ago for 5.71, sold them a month ago for 6.58, bought them back last week at 5.77, they are back up to 6.12 today, looking to sell at 6.60, and then watch them fall again, and buy again.



The amount I'm "gambling" had a 10 in it at the start.

Bing o

15,184 posts

235 months

Thursday 18th August 2011
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Mr POD said:
Try the stock exchange!!!

I bought some shares about 3 months ago for 5.71, sold them a month ago for 6.58, bought them back last week at 5.77, they are back up to 6.12 today, looking to sell at 6.60, and then watch them fall again, and buy again.



The amount I'm "gambling" had a 10 in it at the start.
I take it you work for an IBs Prop Desk with that level of ability?