People bragging they have got a PPI refund.
People bragging they have got a PPI refund.
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Emeye

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9,781 posts

253 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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Am I missing something here, but recently I've had some friends and colleagues who seem rather chuffed that they have had a reasonably sized "compensation" payout off the bank.

Surely they have just got back something they were daft enough to pay out without knowing what it was? You'd have thought the'd won the lottery the way they were going on.

dtmpower

3,972 posts

275 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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Typical cretins. Had similar when claiming back bank charges was popular. How much interest did they pay for the ppi'ed loan! They don't get the interest back ... take solus in their naivety.

Shotgun Rider

816 posts

200 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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Reminds me of a mate who was always chuffed to bits when he got an annual tax rebate after he signed up to sell herbalife and lost money on it every year. You get a rebate because you've lost money! He's accountant told him in the end that the idea was to make money.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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dtmpower said:
Typical cretins. Had similar when claiming back bank charges was popular. How much interest did they pay for the ppi'ed loan! They don't get the interest back ... take solus in their naivety.
I thought people got the interest back, the original premium and 8% as that is what a court would issue?

dtmpower

3,972 posts

275 months

Thursday 12th April 2012
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sebdangerfield said:
I thought people got the interest back, the original premium and 8% as that is what a court would issue?
You're joking surely ??? They get the insurance premium and the interest back? If so why? The insurance was misold but the loan was still valid and declared at a rate.

Can anyone clarify?

Sargeant Orange

3,190 posts

177 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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I was wondering the other day how much debt a guy in work would have to have had to reclaim the £6k he reckons he got back.

It never ceases to amaze me how a lot of people reckless with money (not saying these PPI refunds are not justified) always seem to keep landing on their feet. Said guy had a backdated pay settlement of £9k a few months back despite being one of the laziest sods I've met.

K77 CTR

1,663 posts

212 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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dtmpower said:
You're joking surely ??? They get the insurance premium and the interest back? If so why? The insurance was misold but the loan was still valid and declared at a rate.

Can anyone clarify?
You do get the interest back, I reclaimed the ppi from a graduate loan (I was naive then) and interest was added to that.

Shinobi

5,129 posts

220 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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You gt all the premiums back but interest a court would award. IF you can prove it was missold. The banks arnt really fighting it and Lloyds has a huge reserve they have put aside to pay these claims.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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dtmpower said:
sebdangerfield said:
I thought people got the interest back, the original premium and 8% as that is what a court would issue?
You're joking surely ??? They get the insurance premium and the interest back? If so why? The insurance was misold but the loan was still valid and declared at a rate.

Can anyone clarify?
I'm fairly sure it right. They obviously don't get all the interest on the loan, the get the interest paid on the premium back. Some then get 8% on top of that as is the standard interest rate applied by a court.

jatinder

1,667 posts

243 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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I’ll bite, got PPI claim refunded...

When I was 19 I wanted a new car, so I took out a loan stupid perhaps, but I worked part time at Sainsbury (£350 a month).
Took a loan for 1300 I think and paid it all back in a year, I remember applying and getting phoned back and being TOLD I had to have PPI otherwise I couldn't get the loan, specifically remember because the guy was an ahole. Being young and stupid I agreed.

When checking the paperwork a month later it turns out I wouldn't have been covered anyway, as I worked less than 16 hours a week. I couldn’t cancel it either.

This was years ago and money at the time I could have done with.

I received £243 back, so my premium plus and extra £50.

I haven't claimed anything back ever if it was my fault. But specifically remember the guy was a complete wker and was on the phone with him for nearly an hour. So I really don't feel any guilt.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

212 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Unlike the rest of the sheep, I looked into what I was signing up for when I got my first credit card, and decided I didn't want this bks insurance that probably wouldn't pay out anyway. So I never paid any premiums, and don't need to fanny about trying to get it all back.

That's how to be smug about the situation.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

314 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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Maybe they should have asked on PH first. Not everyone is as savvy.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

212 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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jmorgan said:
Maybe they should have asked on PH first. Not everyone is as savvy.
Doesn't mean they shouldn't be. I just can't imagine signing up for something without checking every detail first. What did they think they were paying for? Or was it just a case of $ $ symbols in each eye and "Gimme the money. Gimme the money. Gimme the money."?

I can understand those cases where it was sold as an essential to the deal - If the lender tells you that's their rules, you go with it - but in every case I've seen it was just an option that no-one bothered to check and opt out of.

Funk

27,724 posts

239 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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I recall being pressured by a 'hard sell' on a loan years ago. They really did push PPI hard. I turned it down, but recall being concerned at the insinuation that I may not be approved for the loan as a result.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

212 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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anonymous said:
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yes

jmorgan

36,010 posts

314 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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HereBeMonsters said:
jmorgan said:
Maybe they should have asked on PH first. Not everyone is as savvy.
Doesn't mean they shouldn't be. I just can't imagine signing up for something without checking every detail first. What did they think they were paying for? Or was it just a case of $ $ symbols in each eye and "Gimme the money. Gimme the money. Gimme the money."?

I can understand those cases where it was sold as an essential to the deal - If the lender tells you that's their rules, you go with it - but in every case I've seen it was just an option that no-one bothered to check and opt out of.
Thing is, you are you, Mre Miggins and co is not and may not be as aware as they should be. When I was a lot younger I was told I had to have it, bit green behind the ears so accepted it. I know different now. If the man at the banks says you must or intimates that it needs to be taken out "to be safe" then I suspect there are many that will go with it.

How many have not bothered to check then? I ask as you mention it.

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

212 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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jmorgan said:
Thing is, you are you, Mre Miggins and co is not and may not be as aware as they should be. When I was a lot younger I was told I had to have it, bit green behind the ears so accepted it. I know different now. If the man at the banks says you must or intimates that it needs to be taken out "to be safe" then I suspect there are many that will go with it.

How many have not bothered to check then? I ask as you mention it.
As I said - being told you have to have it to get the loan is different to not checking in the first place.

At least ten people at work (most in the finance department, no less) are all in various stages of this process. Most have just handed over all the paperwork to an agency, who are going through it and take a commission. They don't even know if they have been mis-sold it or not. If you're that lax with your finances, I'm not sure I agree with being able to get your money back. It's like a tax on laziness and stupidity.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

263 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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HereBeMonsters said:
anonymous said:
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yes
Another yes here.

In 2002 I started a new job, my first earning living wage money, and took on a fairly big mortgage to get the house I wanted. I looked into the MPI I was offered and chose to take it for the first year just in case. After 12 months my feet were under that table, all appeared to be going well, and so I terminated the cover.

I have no idea, as it not really a story I have much interest in, if I could claim the money I spent that year back but so far as I am concerned I went in with my eyes open and knew exactly what I was doing. Even if I do have a claim there is no way I would pursue it as I got what I ordered and paid for, simple as.
I accept that there will be people like Jatinder (sp?) above who were mis sold but I would say well more than 50% of those claiming have one less leg than Heather Mills to stand on morally.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

282 months

Friday 13th April 2012
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I was called by a firm trying to claim back for people - I lied and told him I had PPI on a loan in the past (i was interested in their pitch) - I told him I asked for it...he almost begged me to claim it was missold. It went like this (roughly)

Me: Yeah, I had PPI - I asked for it.
Him: You prob didnt - they prob made you think you had to have it.
Me: No, I knew what it did and asked for it.
Him: what did it do then?
Me: Dont you know?
Him: I know - i dont think you know, I think you were miss sold.
Me: No, I know, I know you know, I know I wanted it and I know you know that because I told you.
HIm: Ok......but if you were miss sold it, and you prob were, we cold get you money back.
Me: I know
Him: Dont you want money back?

and on and on till I got bored.

Mojooo

13,291 posts

210 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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The point is it was missold - either people were told they had to have it or were given it without permission.

I have taken out a few financial products and each tiem was given the hard sell but declined.

As you say - probably are some bandwagon jumpers but the practice was quite clearly endemic throughout the industry and the banks got what they deserve.

Don't forget they don't have to refund people if they can demnstrate the person knew and agreed to what they were getting - all of which could be achieved by very basic paperwork which said as much.