Car Finance Help?
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JulesB

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535 posts

189 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Im looking at spending up to 10k on a car, currently have about £2000 for a deposit, whats the best way to go about getting finance as I dont want to turn up at a car dealers and get ripped off, am I better off applying elsewhere? Ive read/heard that applying for finance from more than one place is a bad move, true or false?

Im also wondering if it is wise for me to buy a car on finance as I am 19 and have had a few minor financial issues in the past due to redundancy etc which has left me a bit dubious about making too many financial commitments.

Oppinions and advice please guys? Thanks in advance smile

johnnyreggae

3,166 posts

190 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Buy a cheaper car is one option - if its ten grand not only will you have the finance issue but insurance will probably be prohibitive

JulesB

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535 posts

189 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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No its surprising I know but the more the car costs the cheaper the insurance is up to a certain level, im not aiming to spend 10k its just my cap smile

InertialTooth45

2,111 posts

217 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Get yourself something nice with the 2k, the novelty of a decent car will soon wear off with the monthy repayments.

JulesB

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535 posts

189 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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My problem is I want something that looks modern(ish) and with a bit of pace so im looking at the Fiesta ST Astra SXI etc which are both outside of the £2000 mark

rossub

5,996 posts

220 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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You've said that £10k is just a cap, but with only £2k deposit against a £10k car, it would be difficult to prevent going into "negative equity". This is when the amount outstanding on the loan is more than the car is worth and you really dont want to be there.

No idea how much you get paid, but an £8k loan at 19 seems like a lot to me?

Dealer may be the only option, given your age, as personal loans are likely to be rather expensive, or just unobtainable for you. There are balance transfer credit cards that work out much cheaper than loans, but you really have to be good with money to make them work out. You also may not get a card with a credit limit large enough to pay for the car anyway.

JulesB

Original Poster:

535 posts

189 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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Chances are I will be spending around £6000 at best on a car as I said 10 is a tops, the cars im looking at are a fair bit less. I would probably be looking at entering a two year finance deal.

Cheers for the advice so far smile

rfoster

1,482 posts

284 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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  • Sweeping Generalisation* - without knowing specifics of your credit history you may well struggle to get a car finance agreement in place - some of the major lenders wil not accept applicants under the age of 21 and as you point out that your credit history isn't great, you may end up having to go to one of the sub-prime lenders who will charge the (comparative) earth. I'd suggest having a word with your bank about a personal loan in the first instance - this won't be secured against the car. Good luck in your decisions!

spud989

3,002 posts

210 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3915969.htm

Get something like that for your money. Comfortably as good as a Fiesta ST and a lot, lot cheaper. Then get something nice in 2/3/4 years.

ady1320

160 posts

200 months

Wednesday 30th May 2012
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InertialTooth45 said:
Get yourself something nice with the 2k, the novelty of a decent car will soon wear off with the monthy repayments.
Bang on there now't like telling folk it's paid for smile

JulesB

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535 posts

189 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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Tis a nice car but ive only just moved out of a clio, insurance is very bad on the sports as well

spud989

3,002 posts

210 months

Thursday 31st May 2012
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Are you sure it's much worse than a Fiesta ST? Have you tried non-mainstream insurers?

HBFS

803 posts

221 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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rfoster said:
*Sweeping Generalisation* - without knowing specifics of your credit history you may well struggle to get a car finance agreement in place - some of the major lenders wil not accept applicants under the age of 21 and as you point out that your credit history isn't great, you may end up having to go to one of the sub-prime lenders who will charge the (comparative) earth. I'd suggest having a word with your bank about a personal loan in the first instance - this won't be secured against the car. Good luck in your decisions!
I'm not far off your age and at 21 I had Skoda finance (Effectively VW Finance.) wanting me to put down £5k on the £13k Fabia vRS I bought. This rather conveniently means for them that so long as I maintain the agreement, the car will never go into negative equity.
You'd hope that with that in mind they wouldn't charge that much interest, but they do and it's a lot (£2k over three years, but I have cut this figure by making early repayments.)

I love the car, but wouldn't finance again in-less I was I was getting one of the 0% interest with 50% deposit deals (Quite popular, but I think this is only on new cars really. - Then again, why would a savvy person do that?!). Or 50% deposit and the rest on 7% ish loan.

OP with your age in mind (Minimal outgoings)if you have a decent job you should be able to save quickly.) I wouldn't finance considering your age and employment history. I know it's boring, but some day you may be glad you didn't dip into finance.

Also, I know that 10k is your top end, but consider that over a 2 year term a £10k car would probably loose £3-4K and a £2k car would probably loose £1k.

spud989 said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3915969.htm

Get something like that for your money. Comfortably as good as a Fiesta ST and a lot, lot cheaper. Then get something nice in 2/3/4 years.
THIS, I don't know about your personal circumstance. But as a young person myself with minimal outgoings, If I really scrape on spending for two months I could buy one of those on the spot. Now if you've done your math and can handle up to £8k over two years at quite a high interest rate, you shouldn't be far off this.

Let us know what you decide OP.

Edited by HBFS on Friday 1st June 21:14

HeatonNorris

1,649 posts

178 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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MX5.

You'd get a tidy Mk2 for that kind of cash, or an older and very clean Mk1.

Beats a shopping trolley with 'hot' engine hands down as a driving experience - and the girls love a ragtop car in the summer.

Jimmy No Hands

5,102 posts

186 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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I'll go against the grain here and actually offer advice pertaining to your needs. Make sure you get some clear figures in regards to everything before you sign anything. Any extra charges, etc. Interest rates will vary.

Despite what the majority will say, if you sign for Hire Purchase the world will not end instantaneously. I got accepted for it no problem at nineteen but I always did my homework and stayed within my financial limits. A sizable deposit like yours will put you in a favorable position in regards to equity.


If it's what you want to do, and you can trust yourself to approach it sensibly then do it.

HeatonNorris

1,649 posts

178 months

Friday 1st June 2012
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Much better to be keeping the monthly repayments towards a house deposit, rather than blowing them on a bloody Ford Fiesta or similar.

SirSamuelOfBuca

1,353 posts

187 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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Or get 6k-7k loan and get a mint focus rs mk1 cheap to insure only grp16

After first monthly payment you will still be like my car is awesome.
Might like a few k if u don't keep it in top shape but they hold value.

My 2p

raptor600

1,356 posts

176 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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SirSamuelOfBuca said:
Or get 6k-7k loan and get a mint focus rs mk1 cheap to insure only grp16

After first monthly payment you will still be like my car is awesome.
Might like a few k if u don't keep it in top shape but they hold value.

My 2p
Cheap to insure a group 16 car when you are 19 years old?

If your parents own an oil field - yes.

If you aren't a Saudi Royal - no.

HeatonNorris

1,649 posts

178 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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SirSamuelOfBuca said:
Or get 6k-7k loan and get a mint focus rs mk1 cheap to insure only grp16

After first monthly payment you will still be like my car is awesome.
Might like a few k if u don't keep it in top shape but they hold value.

My 2p
And again, but in English this time, please.

SirSamuelOfBuca

1,353 posts

187 months

Saturday 2nd June 2012
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phone typing

Buy car on finance
Enjoy
Still worth 6k in two -three years