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If you use most of the main share research portals they will tell you current dividend yields.
But that is only a snapshot, look at dividend growth over time for more of an idea of where things are going.
If its bonds you are asking about again, same story current yield will be listed. Mind for capital losses on long term bonds, especially gilts going forward though. Not an issue if you hold till maturity. Which is why many are suggesting short duration bonds as the best bet for now.
That being said, things are still crap, so I cant see much growth (& therefore inflation) appearing anywhere too soon. Unless outright monetisation occurs. And no QE is not monetisation. Its an asset swap.
See Zimbabwe for actual money printing.
But that is only a snapshot, look at dividend growth over time for more of an idea of where things are going.
If its bonds you are asking about again, same story current yield will be listed. Mind for capital losses on long term bonds, especially gilts going forward though. Not an issue if you hold till maturity. Which is why many are suggesting short duration bonds as the best bet for now.
That being said, things are still crap, so I cant see much growth (& therefore inflation) appearing anywhere too soon. Unless outright monetisation occurs. And no QE is not monetisation. Its an asset swap.
See Zimbabwe for actual money printing.
Not sure if there is one.
As a guide
High Yield 6.5% BBBs currently have a 2% default rate which historically is pretty good.
Emerging Market $ bonds 5.6 OK as a hold, not sure I would jump in right now. faltering a little
Emerging market local currency bonds 5.3
Emerging Markets Corp Bonds 4.8
Gilts treasuries. short almost none. intermediate and long are subject to major volatility and best left to the tech buyers like PIMCO
Munis 3.4
Offspring zero % plus high risk of default.
As a guide
High Yield 6.5% BBBs currently have a 2% default rate which historically is pretty good.
Emerging Market $ bonds 5.6 OK as a hold, not sure I would jump in right now. faltering a little
Emerging market local currency bonds 5.3
Emerging Markets Corp Bonds 4.8
Gilts treasuries. short almost none. intermediate and long are subject to major volatility and best left to the tech buyers like PIMCO
Munis 3.4
Offspring zero % plus high risk of default.
Guys Im being lazy - I just want to know the blue chips that pay the best divvy without spending days trawling through over complicated stuff.
caveat is I realise the divvy is based on history and new ones may not be the same etc BUT im looking to start a solid ISA share portfolio based on divvy yield income not specifically share price.
Kicking off with 3 years ISA contributions (S&S)
caveat is I realise the divvy is based on history and new ones may not be the same etc BUT im looking to start a solid ISA share portfolio based on divvy yield income not specifically share price.
Kicking off with 3 years ISA contributions (S&S)
DSLiverpool said:
Guys Im being lazy - I just want to know the blue chips that pay the best divvy without spending days trawling through over complicated stuff.
caveat is I realise the divvy is based on history and new ones may not be the same etc BUT im looking to start a solid ISA share portfolio based on divvy yield income not specifically share price.
Kicking off with 3 years ISA contributions (S&S)
You should have said Dividends..no probcaveat is I realise the divvy is based on history and new ones may not be the same etc BUT im looking to start a solid ISA share portfolio based on divvy yield income not specifically share price.
Kicking off with 3 years ISA contributions (S&S)
Once you you get a table with prospective dividend payers, look at the earnings yield too that will give you a handle on coverage and their ability to maintain dividends.
Chevron that's a start.
Thank you as ever guys, I've been playing but now from 1/4 I'm going to try and actually put a mini portfolio in my isa. I've had 2 lucky punts with Galliford Try and Invensys but I knew about these companies and I know nothing about others hence a poor punt on supergroup that has just broken even. No more punts just a small balanced portfolio.
Unless you want to worry about FX Exposure try to get UK based divi payers.
So for me that is sin companies and other cash generating businesses.
Imperial Tobacco, British American Tobacco, Diageo, Vodofone, Aviva, National Grid, Glaxo SK
Stuff people still buy in bad times for me. Fags, booze, Telco, Insurance and Water / Gas & drugs :P
Just my 2p. Its also companies that seem in good health and have done me ok since 2010.
So for me that is sin companies and other cash generating businesses.
Imperial Tobacco, British American Tobacco, Diageo, Vodofone, Aviva, National Grid, Glaxo SK
Stuff people still buy in bad times for me. Fags, booze, Telco, Insurance and Water / Gas & drugs :P
Just my 2p. Its also companies that seem in good health and have done me ok since 2010.
Edited by BluePurpleRed on Friday 15th February 12:58
I own BP as a long term play which pays a decent dividend yield, bought them a bit lower than here but not that much. There is obviously still even risk in that they still don't have full settlement for the Gulf accident but this is a company which still has a huge asset base and also generates a huge amount of Free Cash Flow so has financial flexibility.
In the medium term it's expected that the restructuring that will see BP become a more focused growth business which will see the shares climb.....that's a two or three year time horizon though.
In the medium term it's expected that the restructuring that will see BP become a more focused growth business which will see the shares climb.....that's a two or three year time horizon though.
I bought some ICAP shares a couple weeks back at 330. Felt like the markets were starting to get busy again and could see them having very large increases in Revenue if it does happen. Downside is them getting done for any LIBOR violations so there could be risk there especially as they are being investigated in the US.
BluePurpleRed said:
Unless you want to worry about FX Exposure try to get UK based divi payers.
So for me that is sin companies and other cash generating businesses.
Imperial Tobacco, British American Tobacco, Diageo, Vodofone, Aviva, National Grid, Glaxo SK
Stuff people still buy in bad times for me. Fags, booze, Telco, Insurance and Water / Gas & drugs :P
Just my 2p. Its also companies that seem in good health and have done me ok since 2010.
I agree booze and fags seem to be a safe bet if you look at the 10 year growth graph. Although shares in BAT and Diagio are very expensive compared to say Vodaphone. I've done very well with Rolls Royce Holdings and QQ over the past couple of years and also just as a punt bought 1000's and 1000's of Lloyds and RBS when they were dirt cheap just on the off chance they will grow over the long term. So for me that is sin companies and other cash generating businesses.
Imperial Tobacco, British American Tobacco, Diageo, Vodofone, Aviva, National Grid, Glaxo SK
Stuff people still buy in bad times for me. Fags, booze, Telco, Insurance and Water / Gas & drugs :P
Just my 2p. Its also companies that seem in good health and have done me ok since 2010.
Edited by BluePurpleRed on Friday 15th February 12:58
I'd say as a rule of thumb any sum of money you have spare because you can loose as well as gain. Last year on the 6/10/2011 my holding was down £15K so if you were to need money at that moment in time you'd be buggered so it's a brave or possibly foolish man who chooses to go into shares. Me I like the white knuckle ride and saving is so boring and you get naff all for your money. If you have an accountant in place anyway I see no reason not to have a punt. I've found TD Waterhouse to be good but I do have Barclays stockbrokers too.
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