BMW dealer finance deposit contribution ?
BMW dealer finance deposit contribution ?
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blade7

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11,311 posts

246 months

Monday 16th September 2013
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BMW offer what they call a "dealer finance deposit contribution", does anyone know if settling the finance in full within say 14 days would require the repayment of the deposit contribution also ?

sideways sid

1,466 posts

245 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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I'm sure that will be covered in the T&C, otherwise every cash buyer would opt for finance, pocket the dealer contribution & repay the balance with cash within the cooling-off period.

LouD86

3,290 posts

183 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Pay it off before your first payment. There is no clause normally for you to get caught with having to pay. The dealership will likely suffer though frown

GTIR

24,741 posts

296 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Merc do the same.

I always thought it was just a sales gimmick. In reality the car is discounted anyway and they give you a contribution when in fact it wasn't at the initial pre-contribution price anyway!

I'm pretty sure MBUK decide what cars sell for what price not an individual, franchised, dealer. They are the ones "contributing"ion the form of discounts for the dealer to use.

I'm guessing of course but it's a normal sales trick in any market.

mudster

792 posts

274 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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sideways sid said:
I'm sure that will be covered in the T&C, otherwise every cash buyer would opt for finance, pocket the dealer contribution & repay the balance with cash within the cooling-off period.
The other half bought a DS3 using manufacturer contribution and finance, then paid the finance back before the first payment. Didn't have to repay the manufacturer contribution and we were quite upfront with the dealer on our plan.

rehab71

3,362 posts

220 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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blade7 said:
BMW offer what they call a "dealer finance deposit contribution", does anyone know if settling the finance in full within say 14 days would require the repayment of the deposit contribution also ?
I'll set the record straight as I'm a dealer.

You can settle the finance at anytime and you'll get a rebate on the interest for the period of the time you haven't had the debt for. Eg. 48 month finance agreement, £1,500 charge for credit, settle after 24 months, save circa £750 in interest charges.

Last year the EU changed the law so you can withdraw from the finance within 14 days of signing the agreement, this means you have to repay it within 30 days of informing the finance house you want to withdraw.

So, you don't want to WITHDRAW from the finance but SETTLE, If you withdraw you'll have to repay the finance deposit contribution.

As others have said, it's not a trick or scam, but a way to make the purchase cheaper.

HTH

escargot

17,123 posts

247 months

Wednesday 18th September 2013
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Wait for 15 days, ring fin-co and tell them you want to settle. Job done with no deposit contribution claw back.

The dealer may not be chuffed as they'll lose finance commission but such is life.

blade7

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11,311 posts

246 months

Wednesday 18th September 2013
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Ta, any reason to wait the 15 days ?

escargot

17,123 posts

247 months

Wednesday 18th September 2013
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blade7 said:
Ta, any reason to wait the 15 days ?
So as to avoid the issue of withdrawing as opposed to settling

TVR1

5,478 posts

255 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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You are all incorrect. Please don't give the OP bad advice about the 14 day rule.


Maz_uk

590 posts

228 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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It depends on where the contribution is coming from, I used to sell Mercs new and was quite often common for cash customers to take finance to benefit from the 'Dealer contribution' in this case was coming from the finance company as a subsidy from the manufacturer.

Rule was at least 3 payments had to be made before settling finance, we used to pay customers setup fees etc.

Was very handy when MB were throwing £8k to sell pre facelift S Class's!

escargot

17,123 posts

247 months

Thursday 19th September 2013
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Maz_uk said:
It depends on where the contribution is coming from, I used to sell Mercs new and was quite often common for cash customers to take finance to benefit from the 'Dealer contribution' in this case was coming from the finance company as a subsidy from the manufacturer.

Rule was at least 3 payments had to be made before settling finance, we used to pay customers setup fees etc.

Was very handy when MB were throwing £8k to sell pre facelift S Class's!
Was that a dealer rule to avoid commission clawback?

At jag there was no such requirement.

Ari

19,825 posts

245 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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I worked in car sales for a short while, for Ford. They did Finance Contributions and we were actively encouraged by Ford Finance to tell cash buyers about them and suggest they took advantage and settled immediately. There was no clawback of commissions from the dealer, and it helped with finance penetration figures.

It's just a way for car manufacturers to quietly discount cars without it showing up as them offering massive discounts off of list prices. Lets face it, no one's really going to pay £20K for a mid range petrol engined Focus. biggrin

Total PITA as had to prop every customer for finance even though they didn't want it just to access the discounts.

escargot

17,123 posts

247 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Ari said:
I worked in car sales for a short while, for Ford. They did Finance Contributions and we were actively encouraged by Ford Finance to tell cash buyers about them and suggest they took advantage and settled immediately. There was no clawback of commissions from the dealer, and it helped with finance penetration figures.

It's just a way for car manufacturers to quietly discount cars without it showing up as them offering massive discounts off of list prices. Lets face it, no one's really going to pay £20K for a mid range petrol engined Focus. biggrin

Total PITA as had to prop every customer for finance even though they didn't want it just to access the discounts.
Interesting. Jag Financial Services, who at the time were a subsidiary of Ford Credit would claw back our commission on settlements within 90 days.

ljw2k

114 posts

170 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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I'm looking at a £2000 contribution towards a 435D but can't get a direct reply to my question will their be any penalties or claw backs if I pay the car off sooner. Some dealers say yes that their will be penalties but can't tell me what others say I must pay at least 6 payments so I am totally confused here.

I know the dealer will loose out if I can pay it off within the 14 days so what!! they will be making profit on the car that they are selling me anyway and I am just one they are a Worldwide company so can soak it up no problem.

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the T&C for PCP & Finance contributions.

Sorry to hijack your thread Op.

Edited by ljw2k on Saturday 23 September 02:34

mk2driver

168 posts

146 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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The dealer has to supply the T&C’s before you sign so just ask them for a copy now?

blade7

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11,311 posts

246 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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ljw2k said:
Sorry to hijack your thread Op.
readit

It was 4 years ago and on a bike so may not be relevant today, but I let the finance run for a short period and then paid it off. The dealer muttered something about getting paid their commission that way.

ljw2k

114 posts

170 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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Thanks .

HTP99

25,247 posts

170 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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Just use your right of withdrawal from the agreement; 14 days from the date that the agreement was signed, you can withdraw, phone the finance company up and pay off what you borrowed, plus a few days interest, it is your legal right and you will still take advantage of any deposit contribution.

The dealer may lose out but hey ho, and this is coming from someone in the trade!

ljw2k

114 posts

170 months

Saturday 23rd September 2017
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Yes I Have left a deposit today on a pre reg 435D biggrin and intend to pay it off within the 14 days.