FATCA
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manic47

Original Poster:

737 posts

195 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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I'm not sure if this is best in here, or Business.
Can anyone assist with a few questions via email regarding filling in a FATCA form, HSBC require us to do this before opening a company account and are unable to provide us with any advice/guidance at all.
I've yet to find an accountant in my town that even knows what one is so far.






marshalla

15,902 posts

231 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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Isn't that a US tax form ?

ellroy

7,846 posts

255 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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It is a US tax form, they're getting pernicious in their dealings with people/entities with potential US dealings/income etc etc

You'll need specialist advice to fill it in correctly or go with your best guess from the rather obscure guidance notes that should have been provided.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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As said above, however I thought the bank should have been able to advise what categories are what.
I am not sure of the form exactly, but there has been a lot of work on setting up admin systems and reporting for FATCA at the place I work.

It started out for USA, as they wanted to make sure clients/companies didn't have overseas investments the IRS didn't know about.

Other countries are rolling out their own take on it.

If you are a UK Resident and Tax payer I wouldn't have thought it would have been too difficult to fill out.

ellroy

7,846 posts

255 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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The bank cannot tell you what to put as they are not accountants or tax advisors, I work for a differing outfit and can't imagine their rules are vastly different to ours.

Your point that it should be easy to see? Well I've seen the form, and the guidance notes, and easy is not the word I'd use. The phrase bloody complicated springs to mind!

Part of the issue being the very different tax codings and definitions that the U.S. use in comparison to those we know and just about understand in the UK.

I'll say it again, get professional advice. You really do not want to annoy the IRS.

TokyoSexwhale

12,424 posts

224 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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Yup, don't guess - speak to a pro.

A lot of finance companies are now working to US law (unless the country they're operating in has stricter laws than the US, which is v rare).

Doesn't matter if you're UK/Fr/Ger etc, if you can't trade the USD, you're dead in the water.

manic47

Original Poster:

737 posts

195 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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I'm sorted thanks, we found an accountant who asked a couple of questions and then printed out a populated form to sign.
It should be easy, as everyone involved with the company have absolutely nothing to do with the USA whatsoever.

marshalla

15,902 posts

231 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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manic47 said:
I'm sorted thanks, we found an accountant who asked a couple of questions and then printed out a populated form to sign.
It should be easy, as everyone involved have absolutely nothing to do with the USA whatsoever.
It really should be enough for them to ask the question of their customers rather than defaulting to kowtowing to the USA.

(makes a note not to even consider HSBC if we need a new account).

manic47

Original Poster:

737 posts

195 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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To be fair to HSBC, they were the only bank that was able to help us open a charity/business account before we have a charity number. I never know what a convoluted process that is compared to forming a company.

TokyoSexwhale

12,424 posts

224 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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marshalla said:
It really should be enough for them to ask the question of their customers rather than defaulting to kowtowing to the USA.

(makes a note not to even consider HSBC if we need a new account).
I think you might just find it tends to be the banking sector...

But hey-ho.

megapixels83

843 posts

181 months

Wednesday 21st January 2015
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Out of interest what was your Fatca classification i.e. active nffe.

Having opened corporate accounts with shed loads of different banks over the past 2 months and in loads of different countries every single one would not process the account until a W-8BEN E with fatca classification had been completed.

Edited by megapixels83 on Wednesday 21st January 21:45

Cheib

25,428 posts

205 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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FATCA is a massive fking ball ache.....we just had to fill out a FATCA form as part of getting out W8BENE. The tentacles of the IRS are everywhere!

manic47

Original Poster:

737 posts

195 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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To be honest - no idea. smile
Whatever the "we are all from the UK, the organisation is UK only, and we have had/will have sod all to do with the USA" option was.