Final Salary Pension Transfer Values & Options
Final Salary Pension Transfer Values & Options
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pauljdh

Original Poster:

215 posts

194 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Im 56 and have two final salary (defined benefit) schemes, 1 x active and 1 x as a deferred pensioner. Both are with the same company / trustees.

The transfer values are declared as 385K (active scheme) and 442K (deferred scheme).

TV is not the same as cash value, is that correct?

I know its a minefield but what options spring to mind? I know I need to take professional advice but don't want to invoke too much interest in them yet, just wondered if any informed peeps out there could comment on a way to proceed.

I have a small money purchase pension too and some stand alone AVC's (defined contributions)

Id like to finish work in approx 3 years...

Cheers

otherman

2,266 posts

195 months

Saturday 17th December 2016
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Transfer value is sort of cash. If you transfer out of the scheme into a private pension, you can cash it, but you'd pay tax on anything over the first 25%. You could draw down a little every year though, to stay within the 20% band for instance.
If you do this, you take on the risks of inflation, exchange rates (unless you keep it all invested in UK stock, which would be an extra risk of its own), interest rates and investment returns. On the other hand, you can keep the final salary pensions, which are inflation indexed with someone else taking on all the risk.

ellroy

7,841 posts

255 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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You also take on the fees if you move out of them.

Give the amounts you are nudging close to the cap as it stands, not wholly accurate I know before anyone starts, but with AVCs and the other pension you mention also something you may need advice on.

pauljdh

Original Poster:

215 posts

194 months

Sunday 18th December 2016
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Thanks Gents, my firm will pay for a one off professional report on my pensions, its a taxable benefit. I just want to get a bit better cluded up before I go into bat, it may be I can't afford to retire, it may be that I can manage to go next year.
Paul

Ginge R

4,761 posts

249 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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It shouldn't be behind a paywall, but if it is, search 'FT stampede to cash in on final salary pensions', or some such thing. The nuclear option, take regulated advice that you trust etc.

https://www.ft.com/content/c2ed71f4-c694-11e6-9043...

Mattt

16,664 posts

248 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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I thought the standard position is that you'd have to be mad to transfer out of a DB scheme?

sidicks

25,218 posts

251 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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Mattt said:
I thought the standard position is that you'd have to be mad to transfer out of a DB scheme?
It depends on the terms of the transfer.

Mattt

16,664 posts

248 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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True, the guys I've worked with who looked at it were given paltry transfer out offers compared to the DB they would get.

Jack drinker

66 posts

162 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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With the perfect storm of pension freedom legislation and soaring transfer values, it's no longer the no brainier to stay with the DB scheme that it once was.

CarlosFandango11

1,993 posts

216 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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Mattt said:
True, the guys I've worked with who looked at it were given paltry transfer out offers compared to the DB they would get.
The opposite is true of me and the guys that I've worked with.

sidicks

25,218 posts

251 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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CarlosFandango11 said:
The opposite is true of me and the guys that I've worked with.
Very much depends on the characteristics of the scheme you are in!

timbo999

1,547 posts

285 months

Saturday 31st December 2016
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I think one advantage of transferring out of a DB scheme is you can then leave it someone as an inheritance?