Would like to buy land next door-probably can't afford it
Would like to buy land next door-probably can't afford it
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davidpstock

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67 posts

117 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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Our neighbour is thinking of either selling their house (which is on a double sized plot) as is, or selling half their plot (adjacent to us) as land with building approval. We are thinking of moving anyway but not for about 5 years, and by then there could be another house between us which will affect our value. In an ideal world we would buy the plot and sell when we move, but can't afford the 75-100k valuation of the plot.
Any ideas on raising the money? A mortgage is only for an already built house isn't it?

sidicks

25,218 posts

251 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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davidpstock said:
Our neighbour is thinking of either selling their house (which is on a double sized plot) as is, or selling half their plot (adjacent to us) as land with building approval. We are thinking of moving anyway but not for about 5 years, and by then there could be another house between us which will affect our value. In an ideal world we would buy the plot and sell when we move, but can't afford the 75-100k valuation of the plot.
Any ideas on raising the money? A mortgage is only for an already built house isn't it?
Remortgage your current house and use the cash raised to buy the land?

davidpstock

Original Poster:

67 posts

117 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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sidicks said:
Remortgage your current house and use the cash raised to buy the land?
We have just finished our mortgage, so would it be an equity release loan on our house?

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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You could look at a self-build mortgage.

Sharted

3,159 posts

173 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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davidpstock said:
We have just finished our mortgage, so would it be an equity release loan on our house?
Simple remortgage to raise the funds for the land.

mdianuk

2,893 posts

201 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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Don't know your area, but if £100k + £200k build for a modest 4 bedroom house would yield a much larger sell price, buy it and speak to your bank about a self-build mortgage.

98elise

32,669 posts

191 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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Sharted said:
davidpstock said:
We have just finished our mortgage, so would it be an equity release loan on our house?
Simple remortgage to raise the funds for the land.
This, thats how we bought our first BTL.

One thing to be aware of if you buy the plot, the permission will lapse in 2 years (IIRC) and the is no guarentee that it would be approved a second time. You might be buying a very expensive garden.

was8v

2,013 posts

225 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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If you plan to move in 5 years, then get permission and start digging footings just before the deadline for work to start- usually 3 years.

I'm not 100% sure but I think there is no time limit to completing the build.

Anyone who buys the plot off you can finish what you started or re-apply for something else.

tighnamara

2,846 posts

183 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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davidpstock said:
Our neighbour is thinking of either selling their house (which is on a double sized plot) as is, or selling half their plot (adjacent to us) as land with building approval. We are thinking of moving anyway but not for about 5 years, and by then there could be another house between us which will affect our value. In an ideal world we would buy the plot and sell when we move, but can't afford the 75-100k valuation of the plot.
Any ideas on raising the money? A mortgage is only for an already built house isn't it?
Would you selling the land for a house not have a similar affect on the value of your house as having a house built next to you.
Not sure how purchasing and selling as a plot will protect your house value if you think it will be affected by a house being built next door.

Would it be worth purchasing the land and selling along with your house ?

Jag_NE

3,339 posts

130 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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what sort of value is your current home? the reason I ask is that if it is a relatively normal property, the addition of another close by may not have a major impact on its value. if it is something quite special, vice versa. i would want to be absolutely sure that if i bought the plot there would be no risk of it losing any value in the future, aside from general market movements.

davidpstock

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67 posts

117 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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tighnamara said:
Would you selling the land for a house not have a similar affect on the value of your house as having a house built next to you.
Not sure how purchasing and selling as a plot will protect your house value if you think it will be affected by a house being built next door.

Would it be worth purchasing the land and selling along with your house ?
Thing is we know that if our neighbours sell the plot, the value of our house will decrease by some amount- but obviously not by the amount the land will cost-if we bought it we would sell it at the same time as our house. Even if we broke even on the land, we hopefully wouldn't lose the house value decrease as there wouldn't be a new house next door yet.
Ideally we should just sell now before anything happens.

curley

437 posts

249 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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Whereabouts in the country is this ?

davidpstock

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67 posts

117 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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curley said:
Whereabouts in the country is this ?
Leicestershire

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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Forking out a significant amount to buy something in the hope of only breaking even doesn't seem like a great idea to me?

Hoofy

80,084 posts

312 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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davidpstock said:
Thing is we know that if our neighbours sell the plot, the value of our house will decrease by some amount- but obviously not by the amount the land will cost-if we bought it we would sell it at the same time as our house.
Would potential buyers not be put off by seeing a plot next to you looking ripe for development and thus the price of your house be affected anyway?

Can you integrate the land as part of your own ie a huge garden that runs down the side and into the rear? Fence off the front end and convert the front half into an extension of your drive.

tighnamara

2,846 posts

183 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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davidpstock said:
Thing is we know that if our neighbours sell the plot, the value of our house will decrease by some amount- but obviously not by the amount the land will cost-if we bought it we would sell it at the same time as our house. Even if we broke even on the land, we hopefully wouldn't lose the house value decrease as there wouldn't be a new house next door yet.
Ideally we should just sell now before anything happens.
No there wont be a new house next door but there will be plot of land that is marked for a house next door.
Why do you think the house value would hold up if you bought and sold the land, would it not have the same affect as you are thinking it has at the moment.
Presuming your thoughts are that there is not yet any house built thus no affect on property value, that may be the case but I would presume anyone purchasing your property is going to ask / find out about the land adjacent and that legally you may have inform the purchaser that it is owned by yourself.

It may be that what was said previously above is correct and that there will no affect on your property value with a house built on the said plot, may be worth taking some professional advice if you are thinking of such drastic measures to try and protect yourself.

CarlosFandango11

1,992 posts

216 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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Sarnie said:
Forking out a significant amount to buy something in the hope of only breaking even doesn't seem like a great idea to me?
The alternative is to suffer a reduction in the value of their property. Which would be worse than breaking even.

xstian

2,234 posts

176 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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What would put you off buying a house the most? A place with a newly built house next door or a place that is about to have a building site start next door?

Sarnie

8,373 posts

239 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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CarlosFandango11 said:
The alternative is to suffer a reduction in the value of their property. Which would be worse than breaking even.
A perceived reduction in the value of their property....

davidpstock

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67 posts

117 months

Monday 10th April 2017
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Sarnie said:
A perceived reduction in the value of their property....
I'm pretty sure the value will reduce,a new house next door can't do us any favours. If we buy the land and extend our garden the value certainly won't increase as much as the land cost.