Funded Childcare
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OK Is this correct?
Banner outside the nursery stating 30 hours free childcare. We applied, got the Govt funding code, gave to nursery & so are in the system. All good....
My daughter goes there 3.5 days/week, so we're given only 20 funded hours by the nursery.
Then they tell us as funding only covers 38 weeks / year, they've reduced the discount to make it the same across the full 52 weeks, to remove spikes.
I wasnt expecting this Govt funding to make it free, but was expecting it to circa half the monthly £1000 bill. It's only gone down to £800. Seems iffy to me.
Anyone having more luck?
Banner outside the nursery stating 30 hours free childcare. We applied, got the Govt funding code, gave to nursery & so are in the system. All good....
My daughter goes there 3.5 days/week, so we're given only 20 funded hours by the nursery.
Then they tell us as funding only covers 38 weeks / year, they've reduced the discount to make it the same across the full 52 weeks, to remove spikes.
I wasnt expecting this Govt funding to make it free, but was expecting it to circa half the monthly £1000 bill. It's only gone down to £800. Seems iffy to me.
Anyone having more luck?
Get a copy of the nursery's policy, they all do it differently. What they've said sounds broadly correct, but you need to establish whether they're coming up with some esoteric way of calculating a number of hours not to charge for or whether they're applying the Government funding as a discount to your bill. The usual hourly rate is likely to be higher than the rate the Government pays, so in a private nursery you're unlikely to get 30 hours.
That said the discount should average out in the £350-400 a month range, so your numbers don't look right.
We're in the process of moving nurseries because our current nursery has devised a cunning scheme where they offer 6 hours a day free rather than any 30 in the week. This means ours being in for 3 days only gets 18 of his 30 hours, but the nursery still get the funding for the 30 hours he's in. Effectively we're being asked to subsidise the bills of parents that have theirs in full time.
That's been compounded by increasing rates for term-time only care significantly, stopping it entirely for new applicants, including our daughter (unless you're a teacher WTF!), so we're being asked to pay for weeks we won't use or put one in nursery and keep the other out. Oh and there's a new retainer of 50% of the usual day rate for school holidays too, so basically f
k that.
I queried the policy at length and got some pretty adventurous spreadsheets back that showed a complete lack of understanding of their policy and that the policy was based on the wrong government rates. So we've found a nursery that will apply the government funding as a simple discount as it arrives, will do term-time and has a cheaper day-rate.
That said the discount should average out in the £350-400 a month range, so your numbers don't look right.
We're in the process of moving nurseries because our current nursery has devised a cunning scheme where they offer 6 hours a day free rather than any 30 in the week. This means ours being in for 3 days only gets 18 of his 30 hours, but the nursery still get the funding for the 30 hours he's in. Effectively we're being asked to subsidise the bills of parents that have theirs in full time.
That's been compounded by increasing rates for term-time only care significantly, stopping it entirely for new applicants, including our daughter (unless you're a teacher WTF!), so we're being asked to pay for weeks we won't use or put one in nursery and keep the other out. Oh and there's a new retainer of 50% of the usual day rate for school holidays too, so basically f
k that.I queried the policy at length and got some pretty adventurous spreadsheets back that showed a complete lack of understanding of their policy and that the policy was based on the wrong government rates. So we've found a nursery that will apply the government funding as a simple discount as it arrives, will do term-time and has a cheaper day-rate.
paulrockliffe said:
So we've found a nursery that will apply the government funding as a simple discount as it arrives, will do term-time and has a cheaper day-rate.
If you mean in £ rather than hours then they're not supposed to do that.Some nurseries are closing down as fully implementing this means they're no longer viable.
paulrockliffe said:
Get a copy of the nursery's policy, they all do it differently. What they've said sounds broadly correct, but you need to establish whether they're coming up with some esoteric way of calculating a number of hours not to charge for or whether they're applying the Government funding as a discount to your bill. The usual hourly rate is likely to be higher than the rate the Government pays, so in a private nursery you're unlikely to get 30 hours.
That said the discount should average out in the £350-400 a month range, so your numbers don't look right.
We're in the process of moving nurseries because our current nursery has devised a cunning scheme where they offer 6 hours a day free rather than any 30 in the week. This means ours being in for 3 days only gets 18 of his 30 hours, but the nursery still get the funding for the 30 hours he's in. Effectively we're being asked to subsidise the bills of parents that have theirs in full time.
That's been compounded by increasing rates for term-time only care significantly, stopping it entirely for new applicants, including our daughter (unless you're a teacher WTF!), so we're being asked to pay for weeks we won't use or put one in nursery and keep the other out. Oh and there's a new retainer of 50% of the usual day rate for school holidays too, so basically fk that.
I queried the policy at length and got some pretty adventurous spreadsheets back that showed a complete lack of understanding of their policy and that the policy was based on the wrong government rates. So we've found a nursery that will apply the government funding as a simple discount as it arrives, will do term-time and has a cheaper day-rate.
Good call I've aksed them to supply me their policyThat said the discount should average out in the £350-400 a month range, so your numbers don't look right.
We're in the process of moving nurseries because our current nursery has devised a cunning scheme where they offer 6 hours a day free rather than any 30 in the week. This means ours being in for 3 days only gets 18 of his 30 hours, but the nursery still get the funding for the 30 hours he's in. Effectively we're being asked to subsidise the bills of parents that have theirs in full time.
That's been compounded by increasing rates for term-time only care significantly, stopping it entirely for new applicants, including our daughter (unless you're a teacher WTF!), so we're being asked to pay for weeks we won't use or put one in nursery and keep the other out. Oh and there's a new retainer of 50% of the usual day rate for school holidays too, so basically f
k that.I queried the policy at length and got some pretty adventurous spreadsheets back that showed a complete lack of understanding of their policy and that the policy was based on the wrong government rates. So we've found a nursery that will apply the government funding as a simple discount as it arrives, will do term-time and has a cheaper day-rate.
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