Where does the govt think my money is invested????
Where does the govt think my money is invested????
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davek_964

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11,301 posts

205 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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I was speaking to somebody last night who received job seekers allowance. Whilst I don't plan to give up working and claim it - tempting though that is - it made me curious and I just completed one of those online calculator things to see what it would be (which isn't much).

However - the thing that really surprised me is the figure the government assume as income from savings. If you are over pension age, they assume you receive £1 per week for every £500 of capital above £10,000.
If you're under pension age, then they assume £1 per week for every £250 above £6,000!

If anybody can suggest where I can get these kind of returns please let me know. According to those figures I don't actually have to work since I could comfortably live off the interest from my savings.........

Camelot1971

2,855 posts

196 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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I think it's more to do with using your savings to supplement your income than actual returns on your investment. It's not unreasonable to expect people with savings to use that money rather than receive benefits.

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Either I'm reading those figures incorrectly or those returns are easily attainable in, say, a Santander Account.

55palfers

6,375 posts

194 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Another example of where being prudent is penalised.

Blow the lot on coke and hookers and you can claim.

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Not sure I would choose to live off £73.10 a week.

NickCQ

5,392 posts

126 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Camelot1971 said:
I think it's more to do with using your savings to supplement your income than actual returns on your investment. It's not unreasonable to expect people with savings to use that money rather than receive benefits.
Yeah, especially as it seems that you are allowed to hold on to the first £6k / £10k depending on age without any effect on the means testing.

davek_964

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11,301 posts

205 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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55palfers said:
Another example of where being prudent is penalised.

Blow the lot on coke and hookers and you can claim.
If I'm living it up and blowing my savings, I reckon I wouldn't need to pay for hookers. wink
Once I'm unemployed and living on ~£73 a week, I might need them but couldn't afford them!

BoRED S2upid

21,062 posts

270 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Jockman said:
Not sure I would choose to live off £73.10 a week.
I tried it once just out of curiosity it was tough going. Great motivation to get a job.

uuf361

3,168 posts

252 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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I used a similar calculator earlier in the year and it came up with a figure being derived from savings monthly that was higher than my actual real life salary - completely bonkers and if true I'd be retired!

GT03ROB

14,025 posts

251 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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uuf361 said:
I used a similar calculator earlier in the year and it came up with a figure being derived from savings monthly that was higher than my actual real life salary - completely bonkers and if true I'd be retired!
Thought you virtually were!!

trickywoo

14,205 posts

260 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Jockman said:
Either I'm reading those figures incorrectly or those returns are easily attainable in, say, a Santander Account.
£52 a year on £500. Over 10% no?

davek_964

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11,301 posts

205 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Jockman said:
Either I'm reading those figures incorrectly or those returns are easily attainable in, say, a Santander Account.
Note that the figure is per week....

Skyedriver

23,433 posts

312 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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55palfers said:
Another example of where being prudent is penalised.

Blow the lot on coke and hookers and you can claim.
Been like this for years

recall situation with late mum in law: worked most of her adult life, childrens hospital, put some cash away, (very) small pension = pay full council house rent
lady down street, never worked since 18, spent everything she had, pay about 20% of Council rent.

All wrong

Jockman

18,414 posts

190 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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trickywoo said:
Jockman said:
Either I'm reading those figures incorrectly or those returns are easily attainable in, say, a Santander Account.
£52 a year on £500. Over 10% no?
It's £52 a year on £10,500. The Govt doesn't penalise you for the first £10,000.