Will - Divorced less than 2 years ago
Will - Divorced less than 2 years ago
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HRL

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3,358 posts

249 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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Anyone know what happens if someone dies and the only will found is 15 years old and still lists the divorcee as the spouse?

They had been divorced for 18 months, if that makes any difference.

Would the will still be valid?

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

187 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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Yes.

Marriage nullifies an existing Will but not divorce.

HRL

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249 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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Cheers for that. I suspected as much.

And if the firm what wrote up the will went out of business 10 years ago?

I didn’t think it would make a difference as the will will have been signed off at the time of writing.


PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

187 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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If you have the Will what does it matter?

Frank7

6,619 posts

117 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Yes.

Marriage nullifies an existing Will but not divorce.
You seem to know what you’re talking about PM, and I’m not disputing anything that you’ve said, as I’m not affected by the subject.
However, just to be clear that I understand the rights and wrongs of this, just for reference you understand, if a couple are married, and one party makes a will, leaving all their worldly goods to their spouse, and then dies, that will is valid, (I can’t see why it wouldn’t be), and the spouse inherits the aforementioned worldly goods, but, if a spinster makes a will leaving everything to a bachelor that she knows, but subsequently marries another guy, that will is invalidated, is that correct?
If it is correct, and I reiterate, I don’t have a dog in this hunt, would the original bachelor have grounds to contest the invalidation?

HRL

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Saturday 10th March 2018
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Solicitor dealing with the will says it’s no longer valid as they are out of business.

Not sure if it’s just because of that or because of the divorce too.

98elise

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191 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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HRL said:
Solicitor dealing with the will says it’s no longer valid as they are out of business.

Not sure if it’s just because of that or because of the divorce too.
That seems odd, why would a will be invalid just because the company that helped write it went out of business?

You don't even have to use a solicitor to write a will.

PurpleMoonlight

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187 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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HRL said:
Solicitor dealing with the will says it’s no longer valid as they are out of business.

Not sure if it’s just because of that or because of the divorce too.
Is the solicitor the sole executor?

PurpleMoonlight

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187 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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Frank7 said:
You seem to know what you’re talking about PM, and I’m not disputing anything that you’ve said, as I’m not affected by the subject.
However, just to be clear that I understand the rights and wrongs of this, just for reference you understand, if a couple are married, and one party makes a will, leaving all their worldly goods to their spouse, and then dies, that will is valid, (I can’t see why it wouldn’t be), and the spouse inherits the aforementioned worldly goods, but, if a spinster makes a will leaving everything to a bachelor that she knows, but subsequently marries another guy, that will is invalidated, is that correct?
If it is correct, and I reiterate, I don’t have a dog in this hunt, would the original bachelor have grounds to contest the invalidation?
I believe it's the law that marriage invalidates an existing Will, but I couldn't quote the legislation I'm afraid.

colin79666

2,218 posts

143 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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Where this is could also make a different. I'm no lawyer but I know rules in Scotland around Wills and Probate differ from those south of the border.

HRL

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98elise said:
That seems odd, why would a will be invalid just because the company that helped write it went out of business?

You don't even have to use a solicitor to write a will.
That’s what I said to my wife.

HRL

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Saturday 10th March 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Is the solicitor the sole executor?
I’ve not seen the will myself but would assume it says his ex-wife, or my mother-in-law, as it was written in ‘99. They divorced just under 18 months ago.

Does it make any differences tax-wise if the will is declared invalid? Aside from his ex-wife he has two children, my wife and my brother-in-law.

I don’t want to interfere if at all avoidable but equally I don’t want my wife to lose out because of something easily avoided or misunderstood.

mikeiow

8,173 posts

160 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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HRL said:
Solicitor dealing with the will says it’s no longer valid as they are out of business.

Not sure if it’s just because of that or because of the divorce too.
As others have said, the original solicitors have NOTHING to do with the validity of a will they helped draft. If that is what is being said, then a new solicitor is needed!!

http://www.makeawill.co.uk/page-divorce-file-75.ht... suggests the divorce does have an impact.

Perhaps peruse https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/family-... as that looks the right place!

HRL

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mikeiow said:
As others have said, the original solicitors have NOTHING to do with the validity of a will they helped draft. If that is what is being said, then a new solicitor is needed!!

http://www.makeawill.co.uk/page-divorce-file-75.ht... suggests the divorce does have an impact.

Perhaps peruse https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/family-... as that looks the right place!
Going by that it would treat his ex-wife as though she is dead following a decree absolute. Automatically estate split between his children then instead?

Bottom publication is from 1993 so not sure how current that is.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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HRL said:
Going by that it would treat his ex-wife as though she is dead following a decree absolute. Automatically estate split between his children then instead?

Bottom publication is from 1993 so not sure how current that is.
That flies in the face of what I understood and have been told, but it seems fairly unequivocal.

I was heavily involved in managing my father's will and there were provisions for divorce and the death of or incapacity of my mother.



PurpleMoonlight

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Saturday 10th March 2018
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desolate said:
That flies in the face of what I understood and have been told, but it seems fairly unequivocal.

I was heavily involved in managing my father's will and there were provisions for divorce and the death of or incapacity of my mother.
Me too,but Googling it does appear to support it.

Sorry for the misinformation OP.

Robertj21a

18,009 posts

135 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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Someone needs to check this out properly with a solicitor specialising in Probate law. It shouldn't cost much.

HRL

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No problem at all.

I’m sure it’ll all work out in the end anyway. Just don’t want my wife or brother-in-law to lose out on anything. Not sure if there are any tax implications?

It’s a reminder for me to get my own affairs in order TBF.






Marcellus

7,204 posts

249 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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It can be st.... Ive heard of a guy getting divorced and saying to everyone "yes I've re done my will" then died.... All that could be found was the will that pre-dated his divorce and yes his ex-wife got the lot...... we can but hope there's some left by the time his children need it!

Sheepshanks

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149 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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Marcellus said:
All that could be found was the will that pre-dated his divorce and yes his ex-wife got the lot......
Well that's contrary to what the earlier link says. Unless he also didn't bother to get a decree absolute.