Company mileage claim help
Company mileage claim help
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Flat6

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593 posts

285 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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It's probably a bit of an unusual situation so seeking advice... My permanent/normal place of work is 70 miles from home. I have been making fairly frequent visits to the airport for business travel. The airport is just 20 miles from home but along the same route as my normal work commute. Should I be claiming for my trip to the airport and back, even though the return distance to the airport is substantially less (and on the same route) as my normal commute?

Been checking on HMRC but it's a minefield about company mileage claims, with mention about a "10 mile rule" and what can and can't be classed as business mileage, but I'm a bit lost.

I'd appreciate any experts in this area who could confirm whether I could/should legitimately claim business mileage for the above. Thanks!

bogie

17,080 posts

302 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Nope ...

the way you usually claim for business travel is to take off your normal home to base first. So if you do a 100 mile trip and your usual commute is 70miles you claim the diffrence = 30 miles

So if your normal commute is 70miles and you only do 20 miles, you are in fact better off, so nothing to claim

clockworks

7,694 posts

175 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Are you doing the trips to the airport instead of your normal commute, or as extra journeys outside of your normal working/commuting hours? That might make a difference.

oyster

13,744 posts

278 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Take a taxi to/from the airport - this will avoid the issue altogether.

Flat6

Original Poster:

593 posts

285 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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bogie said:
Nope ...

the way you usually claim for business travel is to take off your normal home to base first. So if you do a 100 mile trip and your usual commute is 70miles you claim the diffrence = 30 miles

So if your normal commute is 70miles and you only do 20 miles, you are in fact better off, so nothing to claim
Yep, that's what I thought and why I've not been claiming for the last couple of years. A colleague in a similar situation does claim though, just wanted to be sure I'm not missing out smile

clockworks said:
Are you doing the trips to the airport instead of your normal commute, or as extra journeys outside of your normal working/commuting hours? That might make a difference.

Yes, instead of the normal commute i.e. 5am drive to the airport, few nights away, 6pm drive from the airport back home.

bogie

17,080 posts

302 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Depends how regular it is - after 2 years whatever base you work from is permanent for HMRC and tax purpose

So if you work from home mostly and go to airport each week, after 2 years thats "normal"

Its all well documented online and your employer should detail it all in their expense guidelines too

https://www.mileiq.com/en-gb/blog/understand-hmrc-...

whatever other people claim, is their concern, however if at any time HMRC query the return, they can go back 5 years (at least) and enforce you pay it all back.....


V8 Bob

302 posts

155 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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If your normal workplace is 70 miles away you can claim mileage to the airport and home again as business mileage for HRMC purposes so long as this is not to get to your normal workplace. Many businesses will not pay you business mileage in this circumstance but it is allowable for tax relief. So long as you have a normal workplace that does not require the airport travel.

The 2 year ruling is only if you travel to the same place for work on a permanent basis not say for 2 days every month etc.

I was an Accountant and travelled on a regular basis between several sites away from my normal workplace and could genuinely claim the difference between my companies reimbursed mileage and HMRC allowed rates.


Flat6

Original Poster:

593 posts

285 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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V8 Bob said:
If your normal workplace is 70 miles away you can claim mileage to the airport and home again as business mileage for HRMC purposes so long as this is not to get to your normal workplace. Many businesses will not pay you business mileage in this circumstance but it is allowable for tax relief. So long as you have a normal workplace that does not require the airport travel.

The 2 year ruling is only if you travel to the same place for work on a permanent basis not say for 2 days every month etc.

I was an Accountant and travelled on a regular basis between several sites away from my normal workplace and could genuinely claim the difference between my companies reimbursed mileage and HMRC allowed rates.
Great, thanks, much clearer now. The car policy at work is pretty vague on this and only states the obvious situations for claiming mileage. I'm going to request this is updated/clarified for the sake of myself and other employees in similar situations, so it's helpful to have a bit more understanding.
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Sheepshanks

41,064 posts

149 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Flat6 said:
I'm going to request this is updated/clarified for the sake of myself and other employees in similar situations, so it's helpful to have a bit more understanding.
Why? If they think about it, they'll just apply the lesser distance rule.

The normal drill with expenses it to claim everything until someone objects.

Don't confuse / merge taxation and employer rules. My wife worked for HMRC and for staff they use the lesser distance rule, but for her personal tax purposes she could claim the whole of every business journey from home.

Flat6

Original Poster:

593 posts

285 months

Thursday 6th September 2018
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Sheepshanks said:
Why? If they think about it, they'll just apply the lesser distance rule.

The normal drill with expenses it to claim everything until someone objects.

Don't confuse / merge taxation and employer rules. My wife worked for HMRC and for staff they use the lesser distance rule, but for her personal tax purposes she could claim the whole of every business journey from home.
Yes you're probably right actually. I'm away next week so will put a claim in when I'm back and see if it's approved. Just wanted to be sure I wasn't doing anything which is clearly outside any HMRC rules but that doesn't seem to be the case.