Large financial gift vs tax
Large financial gift vs tax
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CAPP0

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20,866 posts

233 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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In the scenario where Person A has, let's say, £5m in the bank, and decides to gift, let's say, £75k to Person B, who is an acquaintance of theirs, not family, and not likely to be a beneficiary of Person A's estate (which in the normal run of things would be some 20-30 years hence anyway), can anyone advise what Person B's tax liability on the gifted amount would be? Assume that Person B is employed and pays tax via PAYE and is a higher-rate taxpayer.

Thanks.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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Nothing.


bompey

628 posts

265 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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Nothing, provided person A lives 7 years otherwise there are inheritance tax implications.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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bompey said:
Nothing, provided person A lives 7 years otherwise there are inheritance tax implications.
I think any liabilities would lie with the estate, not with the person receiving the gift.

CAPP0

Original Poster:

20,866 posts

233 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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Thanks for that chaps, I genuinely didn't know the answer.

uknick

1,065 posts

214 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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desolate said:
I think any liabilities would lie with the estate, not with the person receiving the gift.
Not necessarily; if the estate doesn't have the assets to cover the IHT the gift beneficiary is liable for the IHT on the gift.

If you think about it, that makes sense otherwise somebody could give away their whole estate just before death and leave nothing to pay the IHT due.

bompey

628 posts

265 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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It's not a liability of the estate, it's an asset that was given away. If person A dies within 7 years the authorities will expect IHT to be paid on it by the estate before probate can be granted.

rfisher

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313 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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wavey

Call me hun.

JulianPH

10,084 posts

144 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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rfisher said:
wavey

Call me hun.
Hun.

Does that help? wink

rfisher

5,064 posts

313 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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JulianPH said:
rfisher said:
wavey

Call me hun.
Hun.

Does that help? wink
Known him for years.

Bestest mates we are.

It's that 150mil lottery winner geezer isn't it?

rfisher

5,064 posts

313 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Now call me a cab ....

Sheepshanks

41,051 posts

149 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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bompey said:
Nothing, provided person A lives 7 years otherwise there are inheritance tax implications.
Also assuming person B isn't employed by person A!


It's odd how people think gifts might be taxable - it comes up on here quite regularly. I recall one poster being furious that a mate of his wasn't paying tax on an allowance he was being given by his parents.

CAPP0

Original Poster:

20,866 posts

233 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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Sheepshanks said:
Also assuming person B isn't employed by person
What about if Person A and Person B had worked for the same company but Person A retired and subsequently gifted Person B from his private funds?

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 11th January 2019
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CAPP0 said:
What about if Person A and Person B had worked for the same company but Person A retired and subsequently gifted Person B from his private funds?
They would have to be able to demonstrate it wasn't in any way connected with a reward for their work.