SA Tax question
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NiceCupOfTea

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25,586 posts

281 months

Tuesday 29th January 2019
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Just completing my tax return, I have just noticed a problem in the spreadsheet I use meaning that I failed to include £1000 of expenses in my final calculation in last year's tax.

Is there any way I can include those expenses in this year's return in return. A rather expensive mistake frown

Eric Mc

125,675 posts

295 months

Tuesday 29th January 2019
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Not legally. However, you can always submit a "repaired" return for the previous year. There is adequate "white space" in a tax return to allow you to explain what the error you are correcting relates to.

GT03ROB

14,024 posts

251 months

Wednesday 30th January 2019
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Or you could just forget it.... but that is not qualified advice!!

NiceCupOfTea

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25,586 posts

281 months

Wednesday 30th January 2019
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Eric, by legally do you mean "officially" or would it actually be fraudulent? I'm not trying to pull the wool over anybody's eyes, it's perfectly valid tax relief, just a spreadsheet formula meant I paid too much year.

GT03ROB, yes, sure, but I estimate it probably cost me £300 or so, so if I can somehow claw that back this year then that would be great. I'm morally correct, if not in any other sense!

GT03ROB

14,024 posts

251 months

Wednesday 30th January 2019
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NiceCupOfTea said:
GT03ROB, yes, sure, but I estimate it probably cost me £300 or so, so if I can somehow claw that back this year then that would be great. I'm morally correct, if not in any other sense!
My bad... I completely misread your post & thought you owed them money.... in which case screw them somehow!! Actually as Eric says you can submit an ammended return, I know I did this a few years ago after my SA had been submitted & accepted, due to my employer giving me duff information. It took a while to sort & I had an accountant do it, but it's clearly possible.

Eric Mc

125,675 posts

295 months

Wednesday 30th January 2019
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NiceCupOfTea said:
Eric, by legally do you mean "officially" or would it actually be fraudulent? I'm not trying to pull the wool over anybody's eyes, it's perfectly valid tax relief, just a spreadsheet formula meant I paid too much year.

GT03ROB, yes, sure, but I estimate it probably cost me £300 or so, so if I can somehow claw that back this year then that would be great. I'm morally correct, if not in any other sense!
No, I really meant legally. If you put in a claim for a 2016/17 allowance but pretend it relates to 2017/18, that is a tax "fraud" in the strictest sense.

NiceCupOfTea

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25,586 posts

281 months

Thursday 31st January 2019
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Eric Mc said:
No, I really meant legally. If you put in a claim for a 2016/17 allowance but pretend it relates to 2017/18, that is a tax "fraud" in the strictest sense.
OK, thanks, that clears that up. So I can request that I revise a previous year's one then?

alfabeat

1,480 posts

142 months

Friday 1st February 2019
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Realistically though what would be the implications of bunging the extra £1,000 expenses in this year's return?

If you got investigated (unlikely) you can explain, fairly reasonably, why you did it, with proof of what the expenses relate to.

What would be the penalty? Can't imagine its going to be life changing? It's a question of timing and not following the correct procedure, rather than being outright fraudulent.

I'm no expert, just look at things from a simple perspective.. Me, I'd just bung them in this years return and keep the proof to hand just in case.

Eric Mc

125,675 posts

295 months

Friday 1st February 2019
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NiceCupOfTea said:
OK, thanks, that clears that up. So I can request that I revise a previous year's one then?
It's too late now to make a repaired return. The deadline for filing a corrected 2016/17 return was midnight last night.

The way to do it now is to contact HMRC (by phone or letter) explaining what the correction should be and they will write to you.

Eric Mc

125,675 posts

295 months

Friday 1st February 2019
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alfabeat said:
Realistically though what would be the implications of bunging the extra £1,000 expenses in this year's return?

If you got investigated (unlikely) you can explain, fairly reasonably, why you did it, with proof of what the expenses relate to.

What would be the penalty? Can't imagine its going to be life changing? It's a question of timing and not following the correct procedure, rather than being outright fraudulent.

I'm no expert, just look at things from a simple perspective.. Me, I'd just bung them in this years return and keep the proof to hand just in case.
Yes, that's the "it doesn't matter if you do something wrong as long as you are not found out" approach. To be honest, it can work - but it isn't much fun of you ARE found out.