Higher value BTL - Lower deposit - Best solution
Higher value BTL - Lower deposit - Best solution
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Ukadvice

Original Poster:

19 posts

89 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Hi everyone


I am in the process of setting up a SPV to start purchasing BTL properties in my area, I already have two but there in my own name and with me planning on buying 2-3 per year long term its worth setting up an SPV.

Anyway the properties I have been buying are around the 45-50k mark which I know is hard to get on a LTD co mortgage.
So my thinking is to purchase higher value properties (60-70k) but use a 85% LTV mortgage.

Would this higher figure and lower deposit open more doors apposed to say 50-60k properties with a 20% deposit?

Just trying to figure out the best solution.
My plan is to save about 10-12k every few month as a deposit. I know the additional stamp duty needs paying which is all factored in.

Having had a look on the mortgage-works they offer some with no product fee over 5years which is handy, rates are higher at about 4.5% but understandable due to the LTV and still leaves me a reasonable yield (9-10%).

Sarnie

8,369 posts

238 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Ukadvice said:
Having had a look on the mortgage-works they offer some with no product fee over 5years which is handy, rates are higher at about 4.5% but understandable due to the LTV and still leaves me a reasonable yield (9-10%).
You've answered your own question? smile



Ukadvice

Original Poster:

19 posts

89 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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I wasn't sure if adding the extra 5% deposit and going for a cheaper property would be beneficial though?
Or if a lender would even consider a LTD co mortgage on a loan amount of about 40-45k?

jonny70

1,280 posts

187 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Ukadvice said:
Hi everyone


I am in the process of setting up a SPV to start purchasing BTL properties in my area, I already have two but there in my own name and with me planning on buying 2-3 per year long term its worth setting up an SPV.


So my thinking is to purchase higher value properties (60-70k) but use a 85% LTV mortgage.

Would this higher figure and lower deposit open more doors apposed to say 50-60k properties with a 20% deposit?
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Have you tried getting a limited company BTL mortgage at 85% LTV ? ( I thought they didn’t exist )

Ukadvice

Original Poster:

19 posts

89 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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I haven't tried yet but will be in about 2-3 months hopefully.

From what I can see there is 2-3 lenders?
The mortgage works seem to be the best overall but will see what a broker recommends in due time.

jonny70

1,280 posts

187 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Ukadvice said:
I haven't tried yet but will be in about 2-3 months hopefully.

From what I can see there is 2-3 lenders?
The mortgage works seem to be the best overall but will see what a broker recommends in due time.
Looking on the Mortgage works website, it seems that max LTV is 80%.
I assume anything higher than that will be considered ‘more risk’ so perhaps higher % and higher fees too.

Ukadvice

Original Poster:

19 posts

89 months

Monday 20th May 2019
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Sorry my mistake. It must have been one of the other lenders I was looking at, I will try find them later and send you the link.

superlightr

12,920 posts

292 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Ukadvice said:
Hi everyone

Anyway the properties I have been buying are around the 45-50k mark .
that's some real cheap properties !

If you don't mind me asking-
- who or what are your tenants type?
-whats your calculation for anticipated voids
-whats sort of rent are you expecting?

Ukadvice

Original Poster:

19 posts

89 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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I have the property managed but typically DSS in terms of tenant. Rent is from £425 - £475, my first one was £39k purchase price with rent of £425. Once you get up to the 50k mark (3 bedroom) you can request £475. Nice yield and reasonable profit even on my 20 year repayment mortgage smile




mike74

3,687 posts

161 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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So Borrow To Leech isn't entirely dead then?

selmahoose

5,637 posts

140 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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mike74 said:
So Borrow To Leech isn't entirely dead then?
LOL!!

I was invited to a meeting today with The Mears Group. Google them. They're fun!! They're just in the throes of taking over Serco's contract to house asylum seekers and refugees in Scotland. Apparently they're being given £2billion a year to do it with too!!!

i dearly wish you'd been party to the meeting.

Borrow to Leech has never been stronger in my neck of the jungle. (btw the LHA rate for 3-bed is more like £600pcm here).

So.....you buy the 3-bedder. Hand the keys to The Mears Group on a 5 year contract. They pay you the LHA rate. And they guarantee the property back in the condition it was given to them at the end of the contract. And apart from the obligation to continue to maintain the property's condition you don't see it again for half a decade!

Lovely jubbly!!!

Ukadvice

Original Poster:

19 posts

89 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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I am just going where demand is, as long as its a steady income and reliable tenant then DSS or not I am happy.

Condi

20,355 posts

200 months

Friday 24th May 2019
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selmahoose said:
So.....you buy the 3-bedder. Hand the keys to The Mears Group on a 5 year contract. They pay you the LHA rate. And they guarantee the property back in the condition it was given to them at the end of the contract. And apart from the obligation to continue to maintain the property's condition you don't see it again for half a decade!
How do they make any money? They cannot pay you the same rate as they get from the LHA, as well as being responsible for any damage, and all the admin costs.

selmahoose

5,637 posts

140 months

Friday 24th May 2019
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Condi said:
How do they make any money? They cannot pay you the same rate as they get from the LHA, as well as being responsible for any damage, and all the admin costs.
Here's a hint:

https://corporatewatch.org/new-asylum-contracts-so...