Pension for sole Ltd co director
Pension for sole Ltd co director
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Canute

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566 posts

97 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Can anyone point me in the direction of a flexible pension solution for a director of Ltd co (me).

The company is essentially a one man operation and I wish to maximise whatever pension allowance I can from profits before tax, we are not talking mega bucks but it would potentially be a nice contribution, but perhaps it would not always be possible to pay into it, so I need something that allows for lump sums if possible rather than regular payments.


grahamm

211 posts

231 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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A J Bell

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

186 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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How involved to you want to be in the investment of the contributions?

Is there a local IFA?

Mr Pointy

13,369 posts

188 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Canute said:
Can anyone point me in the direction of a flexible pension solution for a director of Ltd co (me).

The company is essentially a one man operation and I wish to maximise whatever pension allowance I can from profits before tax, we are not talking mega bucks but it would potentially be a nice contribution, but perhaps it would not always be possible to pay into it, so I need something that allows for lump sums if possible rather than regular payments.
Have a read of the IM sticky at the top of this sub forum.

Canute

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566 posts

97 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Ok, thanks chaps.

I should have mentioned I'm not currently UK resident, so I need some advice with someone that can deal with "passporting" I'm told, if that makes sense with anyone here?


JulianPH

10,084 posts

143 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Canute said:
Ok, thanks chaps.

I should have mentioned I'm not currently UK resident, so I need some advice with someone that can deal with "passporting" I'm told, if that makes sense with anyone here?
Providing you are a UK citizen with net relevant earnings in the UK you can go ahead directly with a UK provider without taking regulated advice (and paying for it).

You don't need to go anywhere near "passporting" firms.

Please bear in mind that you will automatically fail the standard electronic checks (due to not being a UK resident) and will be asked to provide additional information before the pension/SIPP can be opened and funded. This is normal in your circumstances, but it is helpful to be aware of this ahead so it doesn't come as a surprise!

In relation to your OP, virtually every modern pension/SIPP will allow you to do what you are looking to do with full flexibility.




Canute

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566 posts

97 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Thanks for the clarification, having spoken to one or two firms this morning including the one mentioned above none of them seemed too sure of themselves as to what I'm allowed to do and wanted me to seek a financial advisor who could legally give me advice whilst I'm outside of the UK.

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

186 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Are you receiving an income from your Ltd upon which UK tax is assessible, eg salary, dividends?

Canute

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566 posts

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Friday 25th October 2019
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
Are you receiving an income from your Ltd upon which UK tax is assessible, eg salary, dividends?
Not at present as the company is just sitting dormant, although if what I can establish through this post and other research concludes I can do this then the business will be operational and profitable for me to withdraw funds from it almost from the point I commence. But I don't want to do anything with the Ltd until I can confirm properly, and how to, extract profit from the business and direct into a UK pension.

JulianPH

10,084 posts

143 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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Canute said:
Thanks for the clarification, having spoken to one or two firms this morning including the one mentioned above none of them seemed too sure of themselves as to what I'm allowed to do and wanted me to seek a financial advisor who could legally give me advice whilst I'm outside of the UK.
I sometimes despair at the level of customer service available from some providers, it is not rocket science.

You do not need to use (and therefore pay) a financial adviser, you need to use a provider that understands the rules! biggrin

Regarding you latest post. I can confirm that you are able to do what you are looking to do whilst you have net relevant earnings in the UK that are taxable here. Without these you cannot.


Canute

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566 posts

97 months

Friday 25th October 2019
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JulianPH said:
I sometimes despair at the level of customer service available from some providers, it is not rocket science.

You do not need to use (and therefore pay) a financial adviser, you need to use a provider that understands the rules! biggrin

Regarding you latest post. I can confirm that you are able to do what you are looking to do whilst you have net relevant earnings in the UK that are taxable here. Without these you cannot.
May I contact you via DM Julian? you seem to know your onions :-)

JulianPH

10,084 posts

143 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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Canute said:
May I contact you via DM Julian? you seem to know your onions :-)
Please feel free! smile


MOBB

4,560 posts

156 months

Saturday 26th October 2019
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Watching with interest, I’m all UK but looking into this too

OddCat

2,828 posts

200 months

Sunday 27th October 2019
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JulianPH said:
Regarding you latest post. I can confirm that you are able to do what you are looking to do whilst you have net relevant earnings in the UK that are taxable here. Without these you cannot.
...but if it is a 'company' contribution (effectively employer contribution) is the whole Net Relevant Earnings thing not irrelevant ?

Countdown

49,416 posts

225 months

Sunday 27th October 2019
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
Are you receiving an income from your Ltd upon which UK tax is assessible, eg salary, dividends?
Not sure if this is relevant to the OP’s case but surely if somebody isn’t paying tax in the UK there’s no point in paying into a Pension ( since there isn’t any tax relief to be obtained) and therefore you might as well pay into an ISA?

JulianPH

10,084 posts

143 months

Monday 28th October 2019
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OddCat said:
JulianPH said:
Regarding you latest post. I can confirm that you are able to do what you are looking to do whilst you have net relevant earnings in the UK that are taxable here. Without these you cannot.
...but if it is a 'company' contribution (effectively employer contribution) is the whole Net Relevant Earnings thing not irrelevant ?
Unless you are am overseas crown employee you need relevant UK earnings chargeable to income tax to make a pension contribution (or for your employer to make one on your behalf) and receive tax relief on these contributions.

You are correct though in that the employer contribution is not dependent on the level of these earning, but having such earnings is very relevant.

Perhaps clumsy wording on my part!