House deposit question
House deposit question
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Partyvan

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464 posts

159 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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deggles

719 posts

231 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Partyvan said:
Hi all,

I'll keep this as brief as possible.

Other half has £40k for a house deposit. My money is working harder in my business, so I don't want to put anything down.

How can we keep it a fair 50/50 split? There's 100% trust between us, but I'd like it to be legally bombproof out of principal.

My ideas:

A) She lends me £20k, with some legally binding agreement. We both put £20k into the house and have an equal share in it.

B) She puts £40k in, but I pay say 75% of the monthly mortgage payment until we're even

C) I convince her a 911 turbo is a better option than a house and you all back me up

Thanks in advance.
A might be the most straight forward
B will take a long time to reach a point where you've actually paid of 20k of the mortgage principal
C let us know how that works out ;-)

Another option might be to have a deed of trust as tenants in common owning unequal shares of the property. For argument's sake:

House price: 400k
Her deposit: 40k
Your deposit: 0

Her share of property: 55%
Your share of property: 45%

She then 'owns' 220k (50% of the mortgaged amount, plus her deposit), you only 'own' 50% of the borrowed amount.

Of course the downside is she immediately 'owns' more debt, as well as the equity. There's more liability for her than you if house prices fall, even though she's taken all the risk.

I think the 'How can we keep it a fair 50/50 split?' is not really a valid question, the initial starting point is inherently unfair!

cossy400

3,463 posts

213 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Surely just have an agreement drawn up that you ve put zero deposit in and shes put 40k in, then decide how you want to devide the bills up.

If your money is working harder in your business, id assume that sooner or later that business is going to help you both out financially so its ll all come good in the end.

Partyvan

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464 posts

159 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Thankyou gents

I'm just trying to play to our strengths really. She's got a lump sump, I've got the higher income.

£40k out of her savings loses her no opportunities
£40k out of my business as a lump sum would cripple it, far less so over time

NickCQ

5,392 posts

125 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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The easiest way does appear to be a properly documented £20k loan from her to you. Then you each put the same equity in the property and make the same mortgage payments, bills etc.

On top of the mortgage you pay her £x per month on the £20k loan (maybe £200 so as to get to zero over 8 years), with the option to make lump sums to clear the balance?

Partyvan

Original Poster:

464 posts

159 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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NickCQ said:
The easiest way does appear to be a properly documented £20k loan from her to you. Then you each put the same equity in the property and make the same mortgage payments, bills etc.

On top of the mortgage you pay her £x per month on the £20k loan (maybe £200 so as to get to zero over 8 years), with the option to make lump sums to clear the balance?
Thankyou

Could a solicitor draw up & witness that loan, and secure it on my equity in the house?

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

159 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Good luck getting a deed of trust, me and my partner wanted this, couldn’t find a mortgage company who would accept this or allow it after completion. So we lost the sale of the house.


mcg_

1,454 posts

121 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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If there's 100% trust, do you need to do anything? Can't she just put the deposit in and you buy the house together?

With our first house, the misses put in most the deposit. We're in our second house now and I'm putting in a shed load to modernise it. Not once have we thought about having a deed or trust or similar.

oscmax

175 posts

156 months

Friday 8th November 2019
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OP - you need to think about the result you want (and intend) to achieve before working out how best to go about it.

Her lending you 20k and you then buying the house as joint tenants (or the equivalent) would potentially leave you in a different position further down the road than if she owns some greater percentage by dint of the 40k paid in at the outset.

That does not necessarily mean a worse one - all dependent of course on house price movements, the shares you agree, money you put in later etc etc...but certainly worth bearing in mind.

Sarnie

8,368 posts

238 months

Friday 8th November 2019
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Put down a £40k deposit.........you take £20k out the business, she puts in £20k and keeps back £20k......... smile

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

159 months

Friday 8th November 2019
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mcg_ said:
If there's 100% trust, do you need to do anything? Can't she just put the deposit in and you buy the house together?

With our first house, the misses put in most the deposit. We're in our second house now and I'm putting in a shed load to modernise it. Not once have we thought about having a deed or trust or similar.
What if your relationship goes tits up, she decided she hates you and you’re not getting anything, essentially you’ll be stuffed