Workplace pension conundrum
Workplace pension conundrum
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worsy

Original Poster:

6,600 posts

204 months

Friday 7th February 2020
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First PAYE job in gawd knows how long. They are offering me free money as a contribution to their workplace pension. HL Schroder Managed Balanced Fund is the destination and it also means I need to contribute 5%.

I currently have a pension plan with Royal London in the Governed 7 plus a small Fidelity SIPP which I manage myself.

Obviously I'd be mad not to take the HL one at least for basic contributions, however I want to increase my contribution to 9% as this at least matches the payments I have been making to Royal London.

Question is, do I put the whole monthly in to HL?
Or Transfer the Royal London to HL and carry on
Or 5+3 into HL then 4% into Royal London myself with all the associated Self Assessment pain

Any thoughts as to the funds in question?

jet_noise

6,093 posts

211 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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Is the scheme "salary sacrifice" i.e avoids National Insurance payments on both your and your employer's contributions? It's most tax efficient if it is.
Does the scheme restrict provider or fund choice? Your employer may have a contract with one.

worsy

Original Poster:

6,600 posts

204 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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Yes it's salary sacrifice but I understand the fund is fixed.

Beetnik

576 posts

213 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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If the Salary Sacrifice scheme allows 9 +3 then that's the way I'd go.

jet_noise

6,093 posts

211 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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No observation on the funds but on the idea of investing new money outside your company scheme:
You lose the NI relief on any money you invest.
You'll have to claim the income tax back yourself.

You have to decide whether the funds you choose outperform the company's enough.
I'd be inclined to keep your existing pots as they are and put all new money into the company scheme.
Always good to spread your risk a bit IMHO.

IANAIFA (I am not an IFA!) just an opinionated recent retiree on the internet who has made those sort of calls.
We're all different, situations and risk attitude vary.


rustyuk

4,724 posts

240 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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Would you be able to transfer out the money into your SIPP?

JulianPH

10,084 posts

143 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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If you can do the whole lot (new contributions) via salary sacrifice then this makes a great deal of sense due to the MI savings.

As your workplace scheme is with HL you will have a whole world of investment option and the managed one is just likely to be a default position.

You can move your Royal London one into HL or Fidelity if you wish.

A lot depends upon how hands on you want to be with managing this.


worsy

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6,600 posts

204 months

Monday 10th February 2020
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Thanks all. I agree lots of hassle with a separate payment, it's all done from my company at present so at source.

I don't really want to be hands on so I'll leave the RL where it is and maybe choose a little more adventurous fund on the HL one if that is possible.