have your finances recovered from the Covid dip?
have your finances recovered from the Covid dip?
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bomb

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3,795 posts

313 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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Our portfolio of 'investments and pensions' lost a shed load of money, very quickly, when the covid crash hit everybody.

Looking at the figures now, we are about 2.5% shy of our figures from mid Jan 2020, when things were trundling along quite nicely.

We, (personally),dont seem to be far away from being recovered and back to where we were, figures wise.



How are others doing ? Are you seeing a recovery or is it not that simple ? (obviously everyones situation differs, but as a generalisation)

Of course Brexit deal / no deal, will be the next thing to get through.......rolleyes

dingg

4,537 posts

248 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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Recovered and improved from the lows, by about 4 % but had almost half my pension in sli global smaller companies, which got hammered (I almost bottled it) but has recovered by about 40% to reach a an all time high point for me, going to switch into something less volatile once the nasdaq stops rising. Or another 3% growth whichever comes first.

Eta that data is for my pensions only

ISA up 124% from the lows, mostly due to good stock selection :-) high risk high return working so far.

Edited by dingg on Saturday 22 August 21:19

TCX

1,976 posts

84 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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March 16th pension down 26%,share fund down 35%
Currently pension +34% but have a large amount in low profit at the moment,stock just sold big 150+% shares to buy in,share fund +40%
Covid and mining shares done well for me
Worked through most of lockdown,used to go out meals gigs,opera 3/4 times week so not spent anything like we used to

Simpo Two

92,708 posts

294 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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TCX said:
Covid and mining shares done well for me...
Covid shares?

mikeiow

8,150 posts

159 months

Saturday 22nd August 2020
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Yes.....but the real question is whether we are done at that first Covid dip.....or is there more to come?
Who knows!

clarky92

780 posts

134 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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mikeiow said:
Yes.....but the real question is whether we are done at that first Covid dip.....or is there more to come?
Who knows!
I have almost recovered with stock market investments, but the gain in bitcoin has covered off the remaining gap nicely.

I’m going with the opinion markets mostly US are just going to go up and up, especially the S&P 500, although that should really be renamed S&P 5 given the current state. Fed has shown it will do anything to prop it up. Might have a dip or two if Coronavirus bites hard again, but the bounce back will probably be quick if the the gains made in the last 5 months are anything to go by.

The economy on the other hand, well that’s a different story

Probably completely wrong though

TCX

1,976 posts

84 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Simpo Two said:
TCX said:
Covid and mining shares done well for me...
Covid shares?
Avct,antigen self administered test,and cancer research,primarily,started buying @17p currently 190+p,then orph,tils,ncyt,odx,gdr,sold out of those only holding avct at the mo

Simpo Two

92,708 posts

294 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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TCX said:
Simpo Two said:
TCX said:
Covid and mining shares done well for me...
Covid shares?
Avct,antigen self administered test,and cancer research,primarily,started buying @17p currently 190+p,then orph,tils,ncyt,odx,gdr,sold out of those only holding avct at the mo
Ah right, the real sharp end!

You should launch a fund wink

bomb

Original Poster:

3,795 posts

313 months

Sunday 23rd August 2020
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Tesla would have been a good place to be, for some recovery income. Their share price has gone up and up.

mikeiow

8,150 posts

159 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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bomb said:
Tesla would have been a good place to be, for some recovery income. Their share price has gone up and up.
It's been remarkable, eh.
I noted & even remarked to SWMBO when it dropped to around 400 at the trough....but obviously I didn't actually *do* anything to take advantage of it - hey, it could have dropped to 200, right?
Now....I see it is over 2,000. Doh!!

Inflated bubble?
Who knows....the globe is a very strange place, where P/E ratios, NBV and profits appear to be sometimes irrelevant to the world of investment!!

kevinon

3,583 posts

89 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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For reasons I don't understand the real economy and taxpayers are now being used to keep the stock market up. Didn't Trump demand $2 trillion be made in loans to arrest the decline? (it did, for an hour).

I don't know what the word is for a trading environment where taxpayers stump up to ensure it doesn't go down; but it shouldn't be called a "market" .

If the socialisation of losses falls out of favour, and a market is re-introduced, then it could, of course, go down. But with socialised losses; a one-way bet is a sure thing.

TCX

1,976 posts

84 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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Simpo Two said:
TCX said:
Simpo Two said:
TCX said:
Covid and mining shares done well for me...
Covid shares?
Avct,antigen self administered test,and cancer research,primarily,started buying @17p currently 190+p,then orph,tils,ncyt,odx,gdr,sold out of those only holding avct at the mo
Ah right, the real sharp end!

You should launch a fund wink
Lol AIM fund ...currently up 65% on march ggp emh and eua current stars mining related

Edited by TCX on Monday 24th August 10:56

okgo

42,127 posts

227 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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bomb said:
Our portfolio of 'investments and pensions' lost a shed load of money, very quickly, when the covid crash hit everybody.

Looking at the figures now, we are about 2.5% shy of our figures from mid Jan 2020, when things were trundling along quite nicely.

We, (personally),dont seem to be far away from being recovered and back to where we were, figures wise.



How are others doing ? Are you seeing a recovery or is it not that simple ? (obviously everyones situation differs, but as a generalisation)

Of course Brexit deal / no deal, will be the next thing to get through.......rolleyes
Small beer account but I cashed out all my tech fund when this was beginning to take hold then reinvested at what looked like rock bottom. Currently 37% up on then.

Throttle Body

453 posts

202 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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I'm about 10% up on the peak immediately before the Covid dip. At no point was I more than 15% down. The main reason was that I have been gradually moving to precious metals and gold miners for 3 years now, and was holding quite a bit of cash.

The dip was a good opportunity to replace mediocre investments with high quality ones, but I did sell too much in anticipation of a much bigger crash, which cost me quite a lot.

bomb

Original Poster:

3,795 posts

313 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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okgo said:
Small beer account but I cashed out all my tech fund when this was beginning to take hold then reinvested at what looked like rock bottom. Currently 37% up on then.
Good for you ! Small beer or not.......you have made good decisions with your pot. Nice one.

jeff m

4,066 posts

287 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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kevinon said:
For reasons I don't understand the real economy and taxpayers are now being used to keep the stock market up. Didn't Trump demand $2 trillion be made in loans to arrest the decline? (it did, for an hour).

I don't know what the word is for a trading environment where taxpayers stump up to ensure it doesn't go down; but it shouldn't be called a "market" .

If the socialisation of losses falls out of favour, and a market is re-introduced, then it could, of course, go down. But with socialised losses; a one-way bet is a sure thing.
I'm not sure if you are in the right thread....but yes there was a 2.3 trillion made available by the Fed for company payrolls.
FYI Investment houses typically support and donate to the Democrats.
This money was essential for many reasons, to prevent further job losses, to protect peoples pensions etc etc.......and of course to prevent a recession

YTD up just over 8%, and about 2% over the pre Covid high of Feb 24.

2 GKC

2,307 posts

134 months

Sunday 30th August 2020
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The average pension fund must still be well down. Mine certainly are

HoHoHo

15,398 posts

279 months

Sunday 30th August 2020
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2 GKC said:
The average pension fund must still be well down. Mine certainly are
Mine is almost back to pre-Covid levels.

2 GKC

2,307 posts

134 months

Sunday 30th August 2020
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Can’t have much exposure to the UK market then?

HoHoHo

15,398 posts

279 months

Sunday 30th August 2020
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2 GKC said:
Can’t have much exposure to the UK market then?
As I sit here I don’t know to be honest

It’s not a huge pension (6 figures, but not huge), my main pension is commercial property (and that’s not looking quite do good at the moment!)


The mist recent statement shows a 19% recovery over the Covid statement which really surprised me.

Edited to confirm actual recovery % of 19.

It’s down a tiny bit on pre-Covid levels but not by much or enough to worry about.


Edited by HoHoHo on Sunday 30th August 07:40