Knowing when to sell stock
Knowing when to sell stock
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XJ75

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498 posts

169 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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My wife had a 3-year SAYE plan working for LSE that matured in November. It did really well, but we have opted to carry on holding the stock for now. We need the money in mid/late January and today LSE is trading at almost an all time high.

I can't decide if we should sell today, or hold on the off-chance that it will go up in the next couple of weeks or so.

I feel like the sensible thing would be to sell today. We can afford to have a dip, but obviously want to maximise our gains.

Any tips? Thanks

Greshamst

2,480 posts

149 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Current all time high share price, and you need the money within the next month?

Sell now. Anything else would be a lot of risk, for not that much potential gain.

dingg

4,537 posts

248 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Christmas rally enhanced by a brexit rally, I'd hold just a little longer for more upside for a couple of weeks.

tight fart

3,579 posts

302 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Take your profits or gamble them, I’d bank them.

bitchstewie

67,461 posts

239 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Can you set a fill or kill to try to lock in todays price?

67Dino

3,644 posts

134 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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If in doubt, sell half. Means you still gain something if there’s upside, but also minimise any loss.

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

270 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Sell half now and half when needed?

Half the exposure, half the risk.

I wouldn’t gamble 1p in these markets right now... which is what you’re doing leaving money in them which you might need in just a few weeks.

LeoSayer

7,820 posts

273 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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You need the money in less than a month?

Sell them now.

Would you buy them if you have the cash sitting in your bank account already?

Sheepshanks

40,982 posts

148 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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If you're anything like me, then whatever you do will be wrong! I'm not a fan of selling half as that's doing neither one thing nor the other.

Hoofy

80,047 posts

311 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Sell now. The only certainty is by getting the price you sell it for today. The reality is that you got lucky but that luck may change. If you want to improve profits after selling, create a premium workshop and claim that you're a trading genius and teach gullible customers the indicators that made you go all in*.





* - you may need to spend some of your profits on hiring a couple of Ferraris and the drive of a large country mansion for a photo shoot to pretend you're a rich trader.

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,466 posts

194 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Another option is to do a kind of trailing stop.

Decide on a percentage drop that you’re willing to tolerate from the current market value. For the sake of argument let’s call it 10%. (In practice this might be too small a margin if it’s a volatile stock.)

If the stock falls to that level, you sell. You have locked in your profit at a level that you’re happy with.

On the other hand, if the stock rises to a new highest level, you recalculate your 90% selling level using the new high value. But if the stock falls, you do not lower your selling level. Hence you continually ratchet up the level at which you lock in your profit. If the stock keeps rising, you keep recalculating your selling point. But only when it rises to a new high.

You could do a sort of double stop, perhaps selling 50% of your holding if it falls 10% and selling the rest if it falls 15%, for example. This way, as noted above, you lock in some of your profit but retain half your holding to give some benefit if the stock resumes its climb.

JapanRed

1,591 posts

140 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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I’d sell if you need the money that soon.

mikeiow

8,150 posts

159 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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JapanRed said:
I’d sell if you need the money that soon.
Yup....no point getting daft greedy over hope of another small gain if you NEED the cash that soon!

Greshamst

2,480 posts

149 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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bhstewie said:
Can you set a fill or kill to try to lock in todays price?
I retract my previous advice, this is actually the smartest option, but does require you to have some knowledge... which I’m assuming, in the politest possible way, that you might not have if you’re asking this question in the first place.

See if your sharedealing provider will allow you to set up a ‘stop loss’. This is where they will automatically sell the shares if they drop to a price you have given them.
That price does have to be below today’s current price, but not by much.

So if the shareprice is currently 100p, you set a stop loss for 95p.

If mid January they are 120p, then lovely. If mid January they go up to 110p, but then drop to 90p, your stop loss should be activated and your shares sold at the point it went to 95p.
(Look up ‘slippage’, as it’s not always guaranteed, if a huge drop occurred for example)

LeoSayer

7,820 posts

273 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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mikeiow said:
Yup....no point getting daft greedy over hope of another small gain if you NEED the cash that soon!
Plus, in my experience, in the short term, the odds on a small gain are about the same as a big loss. You don't want to be a forced seller after a stock market crash.

Benbay001

5,889 posts

186 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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A simple way to look at it is, if you had the money today, would you buy them?

By holding them youre effectively saying you would.

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

270 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Greshamst said:
I retract my previous advice, this is actually the smartest option, but does require you to have some knowledge... which I’m assuming, in the politest possible way, that you might not have if you’re asking this question in the first place.

See if your sharedealing provider will allow you to set up a ‘stop loss’. This is where they will automatically sell the shares if they drop to a price you have given them.
That price does have to be below today’s current price, but not by much.

So if the shareprice is currently 100p, you set a stop loss for 95p.

If mid January they are 120p, then lovely. If mid January they go up to 110p, but then drop to 90p, your stop loss should be activated and your shares sold at the point it went to 95p.
(Look up ‘slippage’, as it’s not always guaranteed, if a huge drop occurred for example)
Slippage. So no willing buyer at that price as it’s come and gone before you sell.

Which is more likely than not in the coming weeks.

ATM

21,346 posts

248 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Some people talk about averaging in. So if you want to buy but are worried about price fluctuating then you buy in smaller chunks say weekly or monthly. You could do the same but selling.

The problem with setting a stop loss trailing the current price is that if the price whip saws around regularly then your stop will definitely get hit and you're basically selling at a lower price that you can right now.

Cheib

25,370 posts

204 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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Benbay001 said:
A simple way to look at it is, if you had the money today, would you buy them?

By holding them youre effectively saying you would.
This is a very good mindset to have about any financial investment.

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

270 months

Tuesday 29th December 2020
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ATM said:
Some people talk about averaging in. So if you want to buy but are worried about price fluctuating then you buy in smaller chunks say weekly or monthly. You could do the same but selling.

The problem with setting a stop loss trailing the current price is that if the price whip saws around regularly then your stop will definitely get hit and you're basically selling at a lower price that you can right now.
Plus fees if you hit a stop and then it bounces back up half a day later.

You’re down the difference plus fees.