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Qwerty911

Original Poster:

87 posts

116 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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Following the prescribed pathway, after Land Rover Financial Services (Blackhorse), rejecting my rejection of a new Land Rover Discovery 5, I appealed to the Financial Ombudsman Service in January 2019. They (an adjudicator) rejected my appeal in July 2019 and so appealed that rejection in July 2019. I have been waiting ever since. I do follow it up every couple months but keep being told that I am in the queue, waiting for an Ombudsman to review my appeal. There was a small flurry of emails and phone calls in Aug 20, requesting some more info, but ever since I've been back in the queue. I am now nearly 2 years since my original complaint. I would be keen to know if any others are facing this same timescale? How can this timescale of delay represent a functional organization?

CoolHands

23,417 posts

224 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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Wow. Do you still have the car? Or was it physically handed back?

FWIW

3,924 posts

126 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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Yes, I’m in a similar position. It’s a much smaller issue so I don’t bother chasing but I get the ‘you’re still in a queue’ email every few months.

Qwerty911

Original Poster:

87 posts

116 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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I couldn't live with the vehicle so I took the hit and traded it at 18mths old against another new Discovery 5. My claim appears not to be affected whether I still have the vehicle or not. I just had to submit a revised remedy, which I based on my reasonable financial loss, circa £11k.
The original vehicle suffered badly from oil dilution, requiring a £400 oil change every 4-6k miles. My nearest dealer is also 75miles in the wrong direction. I do a high daily mileage and needed a reliable vehicle and luckily I had the financial ability to take the hit on the trade-in.
I know it is not unique to Land Rover, but their customer service was really shocking to deal with! They knew about the problem but obviously took the decision to deny. The oil dilution affected a lot of MY17-18 vehicles. Unfortunately I bought mine just before they rewrote their service mileage statements and discontinued the affected engine! Don't buy a MY17 or 18 Disco 5 with the 3.0 Td6, 258hp engine!

blue_haddock

5,020 posts

96 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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Qwerty911 said:
I couldn't live with the vehicle so I took the hit and traded it at 18mths old against another new Discovery 5. My claim appears not to be affected whether I still have the vehicle or not. I just had to submit a revised remedy, which I based on my reasonable financial loss, circa £11k.
The original vehicle suffered badly from oil dilution, requiring a £400 oil change every 4-6k miles. My nearest dealer is also 75miles in the wrong direction. I do a high daily mileage and needed a reliable vehicle and luckily I had the financial ability to take the hit on the trade-in.
I know it is not unique to Land Rover, but their customer service was really shocking to deal with! They knew about the problem but obviously took the decision to deny. The oil dilution affected a lot of MY17-18 vehicles. Unfortunately I bought mine just before they rewrote their service mileage statements and discontinued the affected engine! Don't buy a MY17 or 18 Disco 5 with the 3.0 Td6, 258hp engine!
Surely to god if your doing high miles and need reliability you wouldnt even look at a landrover???

Also why would the oil change have to be done at a main dealer? i'm sure a local independent garage could do one for half that price?

FWIW

3,924 posts

126 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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blue_haddock said:
Surely to god if your doing high miles and need reliability you wouldnt even look at a landrover???

Also why would the oil change have to be done at a main dealer? i'm sure a local independent garage could do one for half that price?
Zzzz

Qwerty911

Original Poster:

87 posts

116 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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The Disco suits my non-work country lifestyle. My previous Disco 4 did 110k miles without any major fault.
I do have the backup of my wife's ultra reliable, extremely cheap to keep, VW Golf!

The vehicle shouldn't have needed these oil changes. Many owners don't realise their early model vehicles are affected by this issue, because if they do low miles, are close to a LR dealer and bought MY17-mid18 car, LR just give them free oil changes and say nothing. Mine was one of few vehicles produced after a certain date and literature change, where LR stated that the expected service interval was dependent on driver behavior! This made me ineligible for the free oil change!


Edited by Qwerty911 on Thursday 31st December 11:49

blue_haddock

5,020 posts

96 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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FWIW said:
Zzzz
And whats that meant to mean?

If i needed a car that is reliable and capable of doing high miles i would be looking at a toyota landcruiser rather than a JLR offering.

And you havent explained why an indy garage couldnt do an interim oil change - its hardly rocket science!

FWIW

3,924 posts

126 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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blue_haddock said:
And whats that meant to mean?
You need to ask?

Bore off.

Qwerty911

Original Poster:

87 posts

116 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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With respect, I'm not looking for a debate on JLR products, I am looking to find if there are many other people who have been waiting 2yrs for Financial Ombudsman Service to review and rule on their complaint.

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

202 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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Qwerty911 said:
Following the prescribed pathway, after Land Rover Financial Services (Blackhorse), rejecting my rejection of a new Land Rover Discovery 5, I appealed to the Financial Ombudsman Service in January 2019. They (an adjudicator) rejected my appeal in July 2019 and so appealed that rejection in July 2019. I have been waiting ever since. I do follow it up every couple months but keep being told that I am in the queue, waiting for an Ombudsman to review my appeal. There was a small flurry of emails and phone calls in Aug 20, requesting some more info, but ever since I've been back in the queue. I am now nearly 2 years since my original complaint. I would be keen to know if any others are facing this same timescale? How can this timescale of delay represent a functional organization?
They are extremely busy at the moment, I deal with the FOS from an Insurance company point of view, not unusual for the average case to go well over a year if one party doesn’t agree with an adjudicator and escalates to Ombudsman review.

I don’t think there’s any other solution beyond them increasing the staff they have.

blue_haddock

5,020 posts

96 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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FWIW said:
You need to ask?

Bore off.
well arent you special.....

FWIW

3,924 posts

126 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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blue_haddock said:
well arent you special.....
loser

jock mcsporran

5,125 posts

302 months

Thursday 31st December 2020
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I rejected my Disco Sport for oil dilution. Took about 9 months all in from raising it with LR (Black Horse) to FOS decision.
Different engine but same issues, oil change needed every few k miles despite most of my journeys being long distance which should have been ideal.