UK mortgage for expat
UK mortgage for expat
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MisanoPayments

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599 posts

71 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Morning,

I've just read the most recent (2017) thread on this same topic but as I don't yet work with any mortgage brokers, I thought I'd ask for resident Sarnie's or others' assistance for a friend of mine living in Germany.

The house next door to his mother has come on the market. The two properties together make up the detached building on a decent sized plot.

Might he do any better than requiring at least a 25% deposit to get a mortgage? He would be a first time buyer, his wife not.

Thanks.

Sarnie

8,368 posts

238 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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What would he be doing with the property?

MisanoPayments

Original Poster:

599 posts

71 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Hi Sarnie, I've just heard back from him. He would be letting it out first with a view to returning to the UK (to this property) within the next four years.

Sarnie

8,368 posts

238 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Ok..............most mainstream lenders will not lend to him.............he would need to go via a specialist lender, expect rates of 3% upwards......

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 21st January 2021
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Sarnie said:
Ok..............most mainstream lenders will not lend to him.............he would need to go via a specialist lender, expect rates of 3% upwards......
Having been in this situation myself, the only lender who would lend to me was Al Rayan bank so I ended up with a Sharia Mortgage. I also had to pay 1% to the broker, and 1% to the lender.

With a Sharia mortgage you cannot pay interest, so effectively you are "renting". Because of this, the deeds to the house were in the name of the lender (Al Rayan) and not me. I didn't 100% understand this, so when I tried to remortgage with someone else once I had moved back to the UK I had the following situation.

Lender)So the property is Freehold?
Me)Yes
Lender)We have just checked this and it is leasehold.
Me)No it isn't
Lender)Land registry have the leaseholder as "Al Rayan Bank"
Me)WTAF???
Lender)I don't know what is going on, but I would recommend you get legal advice immediately.

5 Minutes of panic from me before I realised this cannot be right. I got a call back from someone who knew a bit more about this and they explained this is normal with a Sharia mortgage and it will just cost another £300 to get the deeds back in my name once the remortgage has gone through.

So pleased I have back in the UK long enough now that I can go to any lender I like.

https://www.alrayanbank.co.uk/home-finance/buy-to-...

Seems they want 4.39% now, I am sure it was nearer 3% when I was with them

Oh and as his wife owns another property, secondary stamp duty applies.

Basically it is going to be very expensive.....

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 21st January 13:02

MisanoPayments

Original Poster:

599 posts

71 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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Thank you Sarnie and Joey for the info - I'll let him know re: the cost, but likely he already has found that out!
Cheers both.

jonesey

681 posts

224 months

Friday 22nd January 2021
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I've been through this 3 times in the last 7 years 1 BTL and 2 residential and the truth is that the story has changed a lot.

My most recent was a residential purchase in the UK. I was fortunate to have 30% deposit available and present as a positive risk but still, 25% was minimum I could find. My rate is at 3.42% with Dudley Building Society.

Skipton were also very helpful but general mainstream banks wouldn't touch me in 2019 (my others are with Natwest and HSBC from 2014/15)

jayxx83

548 posts

225 months

Saturday 23rd January 2021
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Marsden are pretty good for expat. Done a few with them and very helpful.

mark seeker

944 posts

236 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Might be worth taking a look at Skipton international - https://www.skiptoninternational.com/mortgages/exp...

I heard HSBC were looking last year to offer expat UK mortgages, not sure if that happened.

MarkGArgyle

562 posts

183 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Darlington via Sarnie for me end of 2020. ROI to Cardiff.

Paying through the nose; 3.2% apr as I recall with a ~60% LTV but it meant that we got into the house we wanted bounce

MarkGArgyle

562 posts

183 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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mark seeker said:
Might be worth taking a look at Skipton international - https://www.skiptoninternational.com/mortgages/exp...

I heard HSBC were looking last year to offer expat UK mortgages, not sure if that happened.
HSBC were not interested unless you were physically in the country frustratingly rather defeated the object of an expat mortgage!

MisanoPayments

Original Poster:

599 posts

71 months

Thursday 28th January 2021
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Thanks to all for the recent posts, I shall pass on the info!

Royal Jelly

3,974 posts

227 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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MarkGArgyle said:
mark seeker said:
Might be worth taking a look at Skipton international - https://www.skiptoninternational.com/mortgages/exp...

I heard HSBC were looking last year to offer expat UK mortgages, not sure if that happened.
HSBC were not interested unless you were physically in the country frustratingly rather defeated the object of an expat mortgage!
Strange. I had a good experience with HSBC in this scenario. I’m an expat in Hong Kong, and a department called HSBC Expat would send arrange it via HSBC (don’t retire it was U.K. or Channel Islands) although it was only for BTL I believe.

They made it seem very straight forward, although I didn’t use it in the end. Having said that, many of my expat friends have mortgages on U.K. property via HSBC, albeit quite low LTV (50-ish, anecdotally).

Sarnie

8,368 posts

238 months

Friday 29th January 2021
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Royal Jelly said:
Strange. I had a good experience with HSBC in this scenario. I’m an expat in Hong Kong, and a department called HSBC Expat would send arrange it via HSBC (don’t retire it was U.K. or Channel Islands) although it was only for BTL I believe.

They made it seem very straight forward, although I didn’t use it in the end. Having said that, many of my expat friends have mortgages on U.K. property via HSBC, albeit quite low LTV (50-ish, anecdotally).
There are entirely different requirements and regulations between BTL and Residential lending........