NS&I to offer new savings bond
NS&I to offer new savings bond
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Thin White Duke

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2,422 posts

189 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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https://www.express.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/...

NS&I, the Treasury-backed savings organisation which offers Premium Bonds and other savings products, will offer a new green savings bond, HM Treasury announced last night.


No idea what's involved, how much you can invest or what the returns will be. I doubt we'll see much in the way of interest rate rises for some time.

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

270 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Definitely interested if they can offer a competitive rate and they’ll be spending proceeds on green/sustainable/long-term’ist infrastructure.

Simpo Two

92,708 posts

294 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Never mind the colour what's the return?

And where will HM Govt get the money from to pay it...?

thekingisdead

317 posts

162 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Simpo Two said:
Never mind the colour what's the return?

And where will HM Govt get the money from to pay it...?
BoE?
biggrin

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Please be over 0.5%... Not hard to improve on their 0.01% currently hehe

GrizzlyBear

1,108 posts

164 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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F20CN16 said:
Please be over 0.5%... Not hard to improve on their 0.01% currently hehe
Don't complain if you vote for money printers.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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GrizzlyBear said:
Don't complain if you vote for money printers.
??? Come again?

Flooble

5,755 posts

129 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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So to sum up, there's something which may be introduced at an undefined point, with an undefined return for an undefined risk over an undefined period of time.

Sounds a bit like that South Sea bubble investment - "a company for carrying out an undertaking of great advantage, but nobody to know what it is"


BlackG7R

724 posts

210 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Don't really see the point of NS&I at the moment or why anybody would give them any money.

When inflation is taken into account, they are absolutely guaranteeing you will lose money over time.

Unless you are lucky enough to get a big prize on the Premium bonds. (Which you won't)

GrizzlyBear

1,108 posts

164 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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BlackG7R said:
Don't really see the point of NS&I at the moment or why anybody would give them any money.

When inflation is taken into account, they are absolutely guaranteeing you will lose money over time.

Unless you are lucky enough to get a big prize on the Premium bonds. (Which you won't)
So just like everything else then really...

Thin White Duke

Original Poster:

2,422 posts

189 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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BlackG7R said:
Don't really see the point of NS&I at the moment or why anybody would give them any money.

When inflation is taken into account, they are absolutely guaranteeing you will lose money over time.

Unless you are lucky enough to get a big prize on the Premium bonds. (Which you won't)
The trouble is unless you want to risk your capital there is little else out there to put your money into.

For the bog standard saver the options are terrible.

GrizzlyBear

1,108 posts

164 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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F20CN16 said:
GrizzlyBear said:
Don't complain if you vote for money printers.
??? Come again?
If people vote in politicians that are happy to print money at the sniff of a problem, then don't expect good savings rates. Expect, them to print and never cut back, they will debt-up and let the next lot worry about it.

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

270 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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I think it makes sense but... probably...

If the initiatives turn bad then investors get a 0pc return, gov prints more money to fill gap. Essentially public subsidise it. Gov back stop it, but they’d have invested in it and back stopped it any way.

If they do well, punters get 1pc wow. Pile in. While government take the rest!

Advantage, fscs protected up to £1mill.



Build back Britain green etc is all just the latest excuse for money printing.
Covid19 has been a big excuse for money printing. They could have locked all the vulnerable up with a £10,000 stay at home grant per vulnerable, but they spent £20,000 for all 70mill so everyone could stay at home!

Go with the flow. You can’t fight this idiocy. Just game it knowing the game.
Don’t buy into the emotional branding.
Build back Britain is as subversive and obvious as clap for carers.

GrizzlyBear

1,108 posts

164 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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Mr Whippy said:
I think it makes sense but... probably...

If the initiatives turn bad then investors get a 0pc return, gov prints more money to fill gap. Essentially public subsidise it. Gov back stop it, but they’d have invested in it and back stopped it any way.

If they do well, punters get 1pc wow. Pile in. While government take the rest!

Advantage, fscs protected up to £1mill.



Build back Britain green etc is all just the latest excuse for money printing.
Covid19 has been a big excuse for money printing. They could have locked all the vulnerable up with a £10,000 stay at home grant per vulnerable, but they spent £20,000 for all 70mill so everyone could stay at home!

Go with the flow. You can’t fight this idiocy. Just game it knowing the game.
Don’t buy into the emotional branding.
Build back Britain is as subversive and obvious as clap for carers.
Whist I agree to an extent, I just find it so disgraceful that they are loading up our great grandchildren (that aren't even born yet!) with debt just to keep things look OK now, when we all know it isn't...

Thin White Duke

Original Poster:

2,422 posts

189 months

Sunday 24th October 2021
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Well after a long wait the Green Bond is on sale and you get a whopping 0.65% interest to lock your money away for 3 years.

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2021/10/ns-...

Suffice to say I won't be investing.

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

270 months

Sunday 24th October 2021
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Given interest rates rising any month now (probably), buying a bond now seems a bit daft, shirley?

Of course if the FSCS protection is at £1mill still then it’s a good place to dump a large sum and get better than anywhere else ‘safe’

Flooble

5,755 posts

129 months

Sunday 24th October 2021
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Probably just looking to make money from people who want the warm feeling of investing in ‘Green’

Simpo Two

92,708 posts

294 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Flooble said:
Probably just looking to make money from people who want the warm feeling of investing in ‘Green’
Yep. If you can't sell something, put 'green' or 'eco' in front of it.

Green eco turd-in-a-box anyone? Special offer only a tenner, help save the planet, form an orderly queue...


PM3

1,193 posts

89 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Simpo Two said:
Flooble said:
Probably just looking to make money from people who want the warm feeling of investing in ‘Green’
Yep. If you can't sell something, put 'green' or 'eco' in front of it.

Green eco turd-in-a-box anyone? Special offer only a tenner, save the planet, form an orderly queue...
With the added warm feeling of a promise to achieve "green" goals so far in the future that everyone who made the promise is dead ( or functionally as good as ) ....or out of office and laughing like a drain at the fools

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Thin White Duke said:
Well after a long wait the Green Bond is on sale and you get a whopping 0.65% interest to lock your money away for 3 years.

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2021/10/ns-...

Suffice to say I won't be investing.
So how much will your money be worth in three years time after it has been eaten away by inflation?

Seriously, you are probably better off buying a 911 and enjoying it.