Just a very quick yes, no question
Just a very quick yes, no question
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Simon Bags

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674 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Morning Everyone. I'll keep this short as it's probably be done to death. I've got £5k. I've already got Bonds, Stock Market stuff, Pensions etc but I've never had an ISA. Just looking for something, not looking for a quick turnaround, Vanguard S&S 40/60 ISA seems quite a good easy deal.

Yes?

Simon.

trickywoo

14,145 posts

259 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Yes

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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The bigger question is why aren't you moving that £5k AND some existing investments onto an ISA platform to use more of or your full £20k ISA allowance? Plus you get an additional £20k allowance on 6 April 2021.

Simon Bags

Original Poster:

674 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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rockin said:
The bigger question is why aren't you moving that £5k AND some existing investments onto an ISA platform to use more of or your full £20k ISA allowance? Plus you get an additional £20k allowance on 6 April 2021.
Oh all the other investments are doing quite nicely as they are, I get your point though. I can always set up another ISA later on in the year and put more funds in.

Cheers, Simon.

xeny

5,468 posts

107 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Simon Bags said:
Oh all the other investments are doing quite nicely as they are, I get your point though. I can always set up another ISA later on in the year and put more funds in.

Cheers, Simon.
Unless you've run out of ISA allowance, it's generally good practice to invest inside one rather than outside - apart from anything else, it makes filling in tax forms easier, and if the investments do well enough, it saves you tax.

67Dino

3,644 posts

134 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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In Financial matters, if someone asks you to say a very quick ‘yes’ the answer is always ‘no’.

Just saying.

Simon Bags

Original Poster:

674 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Ok, well I just wanted to make sure that I was fine with picking that particular ISA, sounds like it's good to go with.

Thank you everyone.

Simon.

bompey

628 posts

264 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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An ISA is just a tax wrapper. You are trying to chose a fund. Yes it’s a suitable lowish risk fund but you could also have your stock and shares stuff in an ISA and then all income and capital gains are tax free.

Benbay001

5,889 posts

186 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Simon Bags said:
Oh all the other investments are doing quite nicely as they are
More the reason to have them inside an ISA wrapper then, surely?

Simon Bags

Original Poster:

674 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Benbay001 said:
More the reason to have them inside an ISA wrapper then, surely?
I can't release the funds from them just yet.

Mr Pointy

13,352 posts

188 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Simon Bags said:
Benbay001 said:
More the reason to have them inside an ISA wrapper then, surely?
I can't release the funds from them just yet.
Can you do an in-specie transfer?

Simon Bags

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674 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Mr Pointy said:
Can you do an in-specie transfer?
Transfer money from fixed rate Bond to a S&S ISA before maturity?

It's fine, I just wanted people's opinion on the Vanguard ISA.

Mr Overheads

2,627 posts

205 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Simon Bags said:
Benbay001 said:
More the reason to have them inside an ISA wrapper then, surely?
I can't release the funds from them just yet.
If you've got stocks that have done well, makes sense to take up to your Capital Gains allowance for this year, then transfer into ISA, buy the same shares back if you want to, it's called "Bed & ISA". Then in April, do the same again. That way in under 2 months you can have 40k moved from a taxable to a non-taxable situation and still own exactly the same stocks.


Simpo Two

92,708 posts

294 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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As said, an ISA is simply a bag that you can hold investments in with tax advantages.

If your Vanguard fund and ISA is on the Vanguard platform, as I presume it would be, the only slight catch is that you can only hold Vanguard products on that platform. That may be fine for you, but if you wanted to invest any of the remaining £15K allowance in a fund from any other company it would have to be somewhere else.

As an alternative you could open the ISA account with someone like Fidelity, buy the Vanguard fund you want there, and then have thousands of options going forward.

Crafty_

14,086 posts

229 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Simon Bags said:
Vanguard S&S 40/60 ISA
Simon Bags said:
I just wanted people's opinion on the Vanguard ISA.
Just be aware you're asking two questions - firstly about the ISA wrapper that Vanguard provide and secondly about the fund(s) that you might hold within the ISA, which from the description is a lifestrategy fund.

Vanguard as a platform has low fees, the downside is you can only invest in their products. Once you get about a certain level invested other platforms may be cheaper - for example Vanguard fees are 0.15%, Hargreaves Lansdown are 0.45%, but capped at £45 a year, but there are dealing fees (which you can avoid with Vanguard). So it depends how you're going to use the platform, breakdown of providers here https://monevator.com/compare-uk-cheapest-online-b...

The lifestrategy funds are a mix of stocks and bonds, overview here: https://www.sharesmagazine.co.uk/article/understan... I've also seen criticism that they are too UK centric.. which you might see as a good or bad thing. Performance last year : https://www.trustnet.com/news/7464131/three-reason...





xeny

5,468 posts

107 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Simon Bags said:
Transfer money from fixed rate Bond to a S&S ISA before maturity?

It's fine, I just wanted people's opinion on the Vanguard ISA.
You quoted "Stock Market stuff" at the top, which is presumably eligible for an ISA wrapper?, and then asked a question that suggested you didn't really understand what an ISA is.

Mr Pointy

13,352 posts

188 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Mr Overheads said:
If you've got stocks that have done well, makes sense to take up to your Capital Gains allowance for this year, then transfer into ISA, buy the same shares back if you want to, it's called "Bed & ISA". Then in April, do the same again. That way in under 2 months you can have 40k moved from a taxable to a non-taxable situation and still own exactly the same stocks.
I think you can't buy the same fund/stock that you sold for a period of 30 days for it to qualify.

LeoSayer

7,819 posts

273 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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OP your post raises so many questions that it just isn't possible to give a yes/no answer. Either could be wrong depending on your situation and plans.

This link below might help you to decide whether you want to pay for financial planning help or not.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-fin...

If you go down a DIY route then there are plenty of resources such as books and YouTube videos but it's something be tackled over many months and years in my experience.

Doing neither puts you at risk of making a planning mistake that you can't recover from.

Simon Bags

Original Poster:

674 posts

204 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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xeny said:
You quoted "Stock Market stuff" at the top, which is presumably eligible for an ISA wrapper?, and then asked a question that suggested you didn't really understand what an ISA is.
Stock Market stuff, as in about 10 years ago I bought through an HSBC trading account, shares in several Companies.

I've tried to understand what an ISA is.

Thanks,

emicen

9,234 posts

247 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Mr Pointy said:
Mr Overheads said:
If you've got stocks that have done well, makes sense to take up to your Capital Gains allowance for this year, then transfer into ISA, buy the same shares back if you want to, it's called "Bed & ISA". Then in April, do the same again. That way in under 2 months you can have 40k moved from a taxable to a non-taxable situation and still own exactly the same stocks.
I think you can't buy the same fund/stock that you sold for a period of 30 days for it to qualify.
The 30 day rule is for CGT, “bed & breakfast.”

Bed & ISA is sell and immediate buy back within the ISA wrapper, no lay off period.