Paying Lump Sum AVCs into Employers Pension Scheme
Paying Lump Sum AVCs into Employers Pension Scheme
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Wednesday 24th March 2021
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A friend of mine wants to make a lump sum payment into her Employers pension scheme (about £40k).

Is it possible for her to pay the Scheme directly, and for them to recover the tax?
If not then can she recover the tax via submitting a self assessment form?
If the answer is still no am i right in thinking the only option is for her to make the payment via her Employers payroll?

I believe her pension scheme is a "Net Pay Arrangement" and not a "Relief at Source"


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Original Poster:

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Wednesday 24th March 2021
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anonymous said:
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Thanks.

When you say you made a direct payment does that mean you sent them a cheque/bank transfer directly and not via your employer?

DjSki

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Wednesday 24th March 2021
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Work pension schemes aren't the best, maybe get her to set up a SIPP instead and spread her risk into some other funds?

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Wednesday 24th March 2021
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Unfortunately her Company have their own scheme and the administrators have indicated there is no facility to make a "direct" payment, they will only take payments through payroll. As she has missed the cutoff for this year I'm guessing that she will have to pay next year.

Thanks for the comments

DjSki

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Wednesday 24th March 2021
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Exactly, open a SIPP quick and stick the money in.

xeny

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Wednesday 24th March 2021
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DjSki said:
Work pension schemes aren't the best, maybe get her to set up a SIPP instead and spread her risk into some other funds?
Depends on the scheme - mine offers salary sacrifice contributions (so you save NI) and subsidises all the management costs, the only arguable down side is that the funds are restricted to a variety of trackers, but given that's what is generally considered sensible to put in a long term investment anyway, I don't find that a large enough hardship to want me to pay to run a SIPP, or to pay NI on the money going in to it.

xeny

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Thursday 25th March 2021
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anonymous said:
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I did read the thread. I was pointing out a generic "work schemes aren't the best" response isn't true of all work schemes. Did you read what I was replying to?

Edited by xeny on Thursday 25th March 06:14

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Thursday 25th March 2021
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anonymous said:
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Good point, I didn't think of that. Her occupational scheme is DB but (if I understand it correctly) AVCs are a separate thing and won't increase her DB pension so she might as well invest it separately.....

cloud_dog

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Thursday 25th March 2021
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Countdown said:
Good point, I didn't think of that. Her occupational scheme is DB but (if I understand it correctly) AVCs are a separate thing and won't increase her DB pension so she might as well invest it separately.....
AVC can supplement the PCLS amount thereby (indirectly) allowing a larger DB pension to be paid than the reduced pension due to taking some/all of the PCLS, i.e. take the full PCLS with 50% being made up of AVC monies, allowing a smaller reduction in the DB pension amount.

martinbiz

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Thursday 25th March 2021
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cloud_dog said:
AVC can supplement the PCLS amount thereby (indirectly) allowing a larger DB pension to be paid than the reduced pension due to taking some/all of the PCLS, i.e. take the full PCLS with 50% being made up of AVC monies, allowing a smaller reduction in the DB pension amount.
Not in all cases. A few years ago I wanted to make an addtional contribution to my DB pension and after deliberating for a couple of weeks the scheme actuaries said no