Unable to withdraw from Vanguard
Unable to withdraw from Vanguard
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clarky92

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780 posts

134 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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I have a Vanguard S&S ISA. Completely unforseen personal issues mean I need to withdraw my money. I put in a sell order last week for the full amount.

Logged into the platform this morning to see my money is now 'available cash'.

Went to Payments > Money Out, but all I can see is 'Available cash in my ISA: £0.00' even though in the main overview page, I can see my money as available cash.

Any ideas? Its not a large amount, sub £5k if that makes any difference.


Starjet99

170 posts

82 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Have you sent them a secure message, or picked up the phone? Probably easier to resolve directly rather than wait for guesswork from t'internet people.

LeoSayer

7,819 posts

273 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Fund sales take a few days to settle. Have a look at your pending transaction it should give you a date when the funds will be available.

clarky92

Original Poster:

780 posts

134 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Starjet99 said:
Have you sent them a secure message, or picked up the phone? Probably easier to resolve directly rather than wait for guesswork from t'internet people.
Just wanted to ask if there was a 'quirk' or anything easy I'm missing, people on here tend to know a lot about these platforms. Worth asking quickly before sitting on the phone for god knows how long

Starjet99

170 posts

82 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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clarky92 said:
Just wanted to ask if there was a 'quirk' or anything easy I'm missing, people on here tend to know a lot about these platforms. Worth asking quickly before sitting on the phone for god knows how long
I use Vanguard, and am unaware of any quirks aside from the above poster's comments re settlements. I've only had to phone them once, but found them really quick and helpful beer

chip*

1,822 posts

257 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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What day of "last week" did you submit your instruction?
My guess is the trade hasn't settled yet i.e. you submit your trade last Wed / Thur?

Mr Pointy

13,344 posts

188 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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It doen't help you but I see the cash in the 'Withdraw Cash' section. Maybe the system is catching up but your best bet is sending a secure message, although it's not a very quick response in my experieence.

dmahon

2,717 posts

93 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Vanguard UK have had great customer service over the last few years, but they are pretty pants post Corona.

They are often taking an hour to pick up the phone and a week to answer secure messages.

I have had inbound payments go missing, extremely slow transfers in and strange timelines with buys and sells like the OP.

Concerning as I've been in a 3 month process of consolidating with them,, which I am now starting to deeply regret.

CharlesElliott

2,264 posts

311 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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As you have sold out of the ISA wrapper, your cash is not held in the ISA and so I wouldn't expect it to appear in ISA cash but in a 'cash' or 'cash account' section somewhere.

alistair1234

1,134 posts

175 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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If it's anything like HL it will take a few days to settle, so although you can see the cash and can invest it in other stocks you'll probably need to wait another day or so until it's available to withdraw.

clarky92

Original Poster:

780 posts

134 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Thanks for the info everyone

I put the sell order in late Thursday evening, and it completed at 09:22 this morning.

Bit more digging around on the website and as others have posted, seems you need to wait for a couple of days for the funds to 'settle' before withdrawing

https://www.vanguardinvestor.co.uk/need-help/answe...

Mr Pointy

13,344 posts

188 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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CharlesElliott said:
As you have sold out of the ISA wrapper, your cash is not held in the ISA and so I wouldn't expect it to appear in ISA cash but in a 'cash' or 'cash account' section somewhere.
You don't have a Vanguard account do you? The cash stays in the ISA, it's shown om a separate line.

Just because a fund or stock is sold doesn't mean the proceeds dosn't stay in the ISA.

AlvinSultana

943 posts

178 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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I have to say I had a very poor experience with Vanguard.

I started to put some money in there as a safety precaution to spread the risk around.

The system just does not seem to work very well for me and I am trying to remove the cash.

I might have more patience for the crappy system if the funds were performing well. They are not.


halo34

2,890 posts

228 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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Depends on the funds, mine are all doing very well with them. However it does take time to complete sell orders to money in the bank admittedly.

xeny

5,466 posts

107 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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AlvinSultana said:
I might have more patience for the crappy system if the funds were performing well. They are not.
Are they active or passive funds?

timbo999

1,542 posts

284 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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My missus' Vanguard ISA has gone up 11% since she set it up in November 2020 i.e. 5 months ago. Seems okay to me!

Colonel Cupcake

1,419 posts

74 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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AlvinSultana said:
I have to say I had a very poor experience with Vanguard.

I started to put some money in there as a safety precaution to spread the risk around.

The system just does not seem to work very well for me and I am trying to remove the cash.

I might have more patience for the crappy system if the funds were performing well. They are not.
What funds have you invested in?

Like the last couple of posters, my vanguard investments are doing OK.

timberman

1,479 posts

244 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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anonymous said:
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Just logged onto my account and I'm up over 26% since last March so no complaints here

chip*

1,822 posts

257 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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AlvinSultana said:
I have to say I had a very poor experience with Vanguard.

I started to put some money in there as a safety precaution to spread the risk around.

The system just does not seem to work very well for me and I am trying to remove the cash.

I might have more patience for the crappy system if the funds were performing well. They are not.
I have experience over 3 platforms (HL, Vanguard & ii), and imo, Vanguard is up there with HL, and I particularly like the clear and concise historical data and performance tracker (see below for Graph, plus Calculations, Month, Investments). I have used ii for several months which has a clunky website and and the data/performance tracking is dire, but that's expected for a budget platform.

Unsure why you have problem removing cash, as I recently cleared out my trading account and the funds was in my accounts within days. You may experience "delay" to your sell orders, but are you submitting instruction within the dealing time/deadlines? i.e. are you submitting UK trades at 5.30pm GMT leading up to an Easter Bank holiday weekend and then wonder why there was no trade..;)

As to fund performance, it depends on your selection, but even my daughter's boring passive fund managed a respective return since inception/Feb-20 (see below). I chucked in a lump sum soon after her 1st birthday which was possibly the worse time in 2020, but no biggie as it has another 17 years of growth before she can access the funds.


Skyedriver

23,380 posts

311 months

Monday 12th April 2021
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clarky92 said:
Thanks for the info everyone

I put the sell order in late Thursday evening, and it completed at 09:22 this morning.

Bit more digging around on the website and as others have posted, seems you need to wait for a couple of days for the funds to 'settle' before withdrawing

https://www.vanguardinvestor.co.uk/need-help/answe...
There you go bud, it'll be available probably Wednesday, you placed the sell after close on Thursday, not sure why it didn't sell until today, funds rather than company shares?