Self employed 4th grant
Self employed 4th grant
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markcoznottz

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7,155 posts

253 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Had anyone heard anything yet or received an email from hmrc? For previous grants they emailed to say that you are eligible etc and to apply. There hadn’t been much media coverage for this one

clockworks

7,654 posts

174 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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I didn't qualify for the first 3 grants, but I got a text on the 16th saying I could apply for the 4th grant from April 29th.

Monkeylegend

29,197 posts

260 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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My DiL has just received hers last week, another £12k.

Mr-B

4,990 posts

223 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Had an email on the 14th and 21st of this month.

JeffreyD

6,155 posts

69 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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Monkeylegend said:
My DiL has just received hers last week, another £12k.
I thought it was capped at 7.5k?

Monkeylegend

29,197 posts

260 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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JeffreyD said:
Monkeylegend said:
My DiL has just received hers last week, another £12k.
I thought it was capped at 7.5k?
Yes, sorry, missed the self employed bit, she owns and runs a Ltd Company.

renmure

4,921 posts

253 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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I received an email about a week ago saying I could apply from 26th (yesterday) which I did and had confirmation today that the money would be in my account within 3 days

Steve H

7,538 posts

224 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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I had notification that I could apply from last Friday.

Bluesgirl

796 posts

120 months

Tuesday 27th April 2021
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I got an email on 16th April, saying that I can claim from 29th.

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

270 months

Wednesday 28th April 2021
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I can’t get this one because last year I had one-off income (year’s of estate income that had built up and given in one go) larger than my earnings in a year where my earnings were probably way lower due to Covid.

Bit of a bummer as I got the last ones as they were based on previous years, in which, had that other income been spread out, would have been ok.


anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 28th April 2021
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Money for nothing and your chicks for free.

Wish I got some of this free money, must be pretty sweet.

t400ble

1,804 posts

150 months

Wednesday 28th April 2021
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Joey Deacon said:
Money for nothing and your chicks for free.

Wish I got some of this free money, must be pretty sweet.
Nothings free, its all taxable!

Pieman68

4,292 posts

263 months

Wednesday 28th April 2021
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t400ble said:
Joey Deacon said:
Money for nothing and your chicks for free.

Wish I got some of this free money, must be pretty sweet.
Nothings free, its all taxable!
My wife didn't qualify for the first 3 so went and got a job at the hospital to tide us over. She just got this one but based on the fact that she has worked the last 12 months employed as well as running a reduced business, I would expect a decent chunk of the £1300 she received to go straight back next January

Her taxes are going to go up. So are mine. If she is entitled to it and is going to pay the extra tax in the same way as people who have been funded for the last 12 months, then why shouldn't she claim it? More than likely it will be used to put money back into the economy by employing a local guy to do some work on the house or garden

markcoznottz

Original Poster:

7,155 posts

253 months

Wednesday 28th April 2021
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Just sorted my claim, went through like the last times. Interestingly, I definitely didn’t receive any correspondence this time, no emails at all. I wonder how many people are waiting for the all clear when they are able to go straight to the gov homepage and access.

Saleen836

12,491 posts

238 months

Wednesday 28th April 2021
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A friend of mine has claimed this 4th grant and is using it to pay the tax he owes from his 20/21 tax return, he gets 20% deducted and always gets a rebate but as he claimed the first 3 grants he now owes the taxman money,will most likely be a lot more in this same position once they do their accounts

markcoznottz

Original Poster:

7,155 posts

253 months

Wednesday 28th April 2021
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Saleen836 said:
A friend of mine has claimed this 4th grant and is using it to pay the tax he owes from his 20/21 tax return, he gets 20% deducted and always gets a rebate but as he claimed the first 3 grants he now owes the taxman money,will most likely be a lot more in this same position once they do their accounts
A lot of difficult issues ahead. Why give money to businesses that can’t pay it back? Or at the very least will find it monumentally hard to.

Mikebentley

8,600 posts

169 months

Wednesday 28th April 2021
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I got an email directing me to some webinar thing that all the places were taken up on so couldn’t sign up? No follow up giving me a date to claim the 4th SEISS grant yet. I’m looking at my income for this year very carefully so may choose not to claim this one as it may cost me more than it’s worth.

Steve H

7,538 posts

224 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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markcoznottz said:
A lot of difficult issues ahead. Why give money to businesses that can’t pay it back? Or at the very least will find it monumentally hard to.
They don’t have to pay it back, just recognise it as (free) income and you have to pay tax on it just like all the income you actually have to go out and work for.

Mikebentley said:
I got an email directing me to some webinar thing that all the places were taken up on so couldn’t sign up? No follow up giving me a date to claim the 4th SEISS grant yet. I’m looking at my income for this year very carefully so may choose not to claim this one as it may cost me more than it’s worth.
That makes no sense to me. Even if it pushes you into the next tax bracket you only pay the higher rate on profits above the threshold, how could it cost you more than they give you?

condor

8,837 posts

277 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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I got the email on 13/4 with my date to claim from 22/4. I think I actually claimed Monday 26/4, received email to say it had been processed the following day and was in my account this morning smile

tight fart

3,575 posts

302 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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I received mine and paid it straight back into my hmrc tax account.
I figured they’ll want it back sooner or later.