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Trailhead

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2,628 posts

176 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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Hi all,

Has anyone used the Wealthify app and how would you rate the experience / investment performance?

I am considering a drip feed into something like this as diversification from Vanguard LS.

Thanks

Burwood

18,718 posts

275 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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Trailhead said:
Hi all,

Has anyone used the Wealthify app and how would you rate the experience / investment performance?

I am considering a drip feed into something like this as diversification from Vanguard LS.

Thanks
A few observations from their website.

1. Complete lack of transparency and down right misleading-they buy shares is the claim. Actually they buy a fund containing shares.
2. They charge 0.6% as a fee. However they fail to disclose that the funds they invest in (off the shelf) also have fees. Your'e paying twice and for what exactly. An app that adds the various NAVs together?
3. I can't find any disclosure on past performance.
4. Why would anyone think it necessary to use them when all they do is buy other funds.
5. No details on key staff other than their dogs name and that they like brown shoes.
6. It's depressing that Asset Management has been diluted to this point. And again, misleading-they don't manage any money or investments.
AVOID

They're losing a lot of money (17M) and counting



Edited by Burwood on Monday 20th December 18:24

85Carrera

3,503 posts

266 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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Why would anyone put money with something called “wealthify”?


paulguitar

35,632 posts

142 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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I have a smallish amount in Wealthify, having read the above I'm looking for suggestions as to where to move it to please...

bitchstewie

67,390 posts

239 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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paulguitar said:
I have a smallish amount in Wealthify, having read the above I'm looking for suggestions as to where to move it to please...
Ironically you could do much worse than Vanguard LifeStrategy biggrin

paulguitar

35,632 posts

142 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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bhstewie said:
Ironically you could do much worse than Vanguard LifeStrategy biggrin
I really know very little about this. I'm after something where I can just dump the money and forget about it, would that be a good option?

Burwood

18,718 posts

275 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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paulguitar said:
bhstewie said:
Ironically you could do much worse than Vanguard LifeStrategy biggrin
I really know very little about this. I'm after something where I can just dump the money and forget about it, would that be a good option?
Nothing at all wrong with Vanguard-the issue is by investing via a third party you pay the third party fee of 0.76% total plus the vanguard fee.

The whole point with vanguard is LOW fees (0.35%) so why pay 1% if you want low fees.

You can invest directly

RammyMP

7,706 posts

182 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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I opened an account with them following Martin Lewis’s recommendation, the £2k I have given them so far has done ok over 18 months, plus I got £40 cashback. I’ll now look at shifting this after the previous post! Thanks!

paulguitar

35,632 posts

142 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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RammyMP said:
I opened an account with them following Martin Lewis’s recommendation, the £2k I have given them so far has done ok over 18 months, plus I got £40 cashback. I’ll now look at shifting this after the previous post! Thanks!
Well, similar story here. So where do we move it to?

RammyMP

7,706 posts

182 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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Looks like Vanguard

bitchstewie

67,390 posts

239 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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paulguitar said:
I really know very little about this. I'm after something where I can just dump the money and forget about it, would that be a good option?
They're cheap and massive and easy to use and if you don't have the time or inclination to get too involved but want to be "there or there abouts" I think you could do much worse.

paulguitar

35,632 posts

142 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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Okay, thanks, folks. beer

Phooey

13,805 posts

198 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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Sticking with Vanguard you could simply buy an S&P500 etf (VUSA) - cheap at 0.07% and has averaged approx +10% over the past 100yrs. Lifestratergy is too UK focussed IMO.

CoolHands

23,396 posts

224 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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It has a stupid name, so that’s a no from me.

Carbon Sasquatch

5,222 posts

93 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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85Carrera said:
Why would anyone put money with something called “wealthify”?
Exactly my reaction.

Maybe my loss, but I can't see past the stupid name

Burwood

18,718 posts

275 months

Monday 20th December 2021
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bhstewie said:
paulguitar said:
I really know very little about this. I'm after something where I can just dump the money and forget about it, would that be a good option?
They're cheap and massive and easy to use and if you don't have the time or inclination to get too involved but want to be "there or there abouts" I think you could do much worse.
I know you mean Vanguard, as opposed to Wealthify who resell the same product at 3x the price

Edited by Burwood on Monday 20th December 21:51

Trailhead

Original Poster:

2,628 posts

176 months

Tuesday 21st December 2021
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Burwood said:
A few observations from their website.

1. Complete lack of transparency and down right misleading-they buy shares is the claim. Actually they buy a fund containing shares.
2. They charge 0.6% as a fee. However they fail to disclose that the funds they invest in (off the shelf) also have fees. Your'e paying twice and for what exactly. An app that adds the various NAVs together?
3. I can't find any disclosure on past performance.
4. Why would anyone think it necessary to use them when all they do is buy other funds.
5. No details on key staff other than their dogs name and that they like brown shoes.
6. It's depressing that Asset Management has been diluted to this point. And again, misleading-they don't manage any money or investments.
AVOID

They're losing a lot of money (17M) and counting



Edited by Burwood on Monday 20th December 18:24
Thanks Burwood.

Do you know which fund(s) they are buying?

I thought they were purchasing the shares directly.

Burwood

18,718 posts

275 months

Tuesday 21st December 2021
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absolutely no share purchases and honestly, I had to really hunt out this list-they don't want to tell you what they really do. But apparently is is active management. What a joke




Orchid1

906 posts

137 months

Tuesday 21st December 2021
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I've been using them since early 2018 and am a bit surprised at the level of dislike here, they've been fine for me I would say.

Last year mines grew by circa 12% and is looking to do the same this year.

The "active management" comes from them switching funds according to current and future predictions. For example back when the pound was in free fall due to Brexit they switched to more hedged funds which I did quite well out of then switched back again once the pound started to recover.

The fee is fairly high I suppose but as someone mentioned above if you just want to drip feed an amount each month and not have to think about it then I can recommend them.

bmwmike

8,686 posts

137 months

Tuesday 21st December 2021
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+1 for Vanguard and possibly AJBell if you want more choice.