Stock market in 1 year: Will it be better or worse?
Stock market in 1 year: Will it be better or worse?

Poll: Stock market in 1 year: Will it be better or worse?

Total Members Polled: 189

Better: 32%
Worse: 31%
About the same : 37%
Author
Discussion

matt21

Original Poster:

4,383 posts

233 months

Saturday 27th August 2022
quotequote all
Having lost a fortune on the stock market, I’m considering topping up significantly to bring down my averages. I would have thought all the winter doom and gloom is now baked in, and things will be better in a year but keen to see what you think.

clubsport

7,411 posts

287 months

Saturday 27th August 2022
quotequote all
matt21 said:
I would have thought all the winter doom and gloom is now baked in,.
Did you make that assumption before J Powells Jackson Hole speech yesterday. with the subtle reference to "keeping at it" ( Volcker) ?

In your position, I would likely seek professional advice from someone with experience rather than an internet poll on a car forum?



dingg

4,536 posts

248 months

Saturday 27th August 2022
quotequote all
clubsport said:
In your position, I would likely seek professional advice from someone with experience rather than an internet poll on a car forum?
Why?
Are their crystal balls better?

;~)

BorkBorkBork

731 posts

80 months

Saturday 27th August 2022
quotequote all
matt21 said:
Having lost a fortune on the stock market, I’m considering topping up significantly to bring down my averages. I would have thought all the winter doom and gloom is now baked in, and things will be better in a year but keen to see what you think.
You clearly didn’t watch the Chairman of the Fed yesterday. Essentially they are looking to crash the economy to bring inflation back to the target of 2%. And he was pretty clear, their policy of rate hikes and QT was long term, and no reverse of policy in the short term.

The Fed want to curtail demand, and that will ease inflation. And the last thing they want is years of high inflation like the 70’s. Powell is a huge fan of Paul Volcker, who was chairman of the Fed at the end of the 70’s, and he basically crashed the economy to solve inflation. And it worked. Yes, it was painful, but it solved the inflation problem.



Edited by BorkBorkBork on Saturday 27th August 16:08

bitchstewie

67,374 posts

239 months

Saturday 27th August 2022
quotequote all
Lost a fortune how?

Big difference between a globally diversified set of investments v doubling down on some of the meme stocks.

bad company

21,917 posts

295 months

Saturday 27th August 2022
quotequote all
dingg said:
clubsport said:
In your position, I would likely seek professional advice from someone with experience rather than an internet poll on a car forum?
Why?
Are their crystal balls better?

;~)
No they’re not, history shows us that. My advice would be to drip money into the market on monthly basis, that way the op should miss the peaks and troughs.

Simpo Two

92,704 posts

294 months

Saturday 27th August 2022
quotequote all
dingg said:
clubsport said:
In your position, I would likely seek professional advice from someone with experience rather than an internet poll on a car forum?
Why?
Are their crystal balls better?

;~)
When things are going up the professionals will tell you how clever they are, and show you some nice graphs.

When things are going down the professionals will tell you 'Ah well we don't have crystal balls you know'. But either way they get paid, and on our risk.

Which brings me onto - if economists are experts on economies, why aren't they the richest men in the world?

And this forum, and many others on PH, are nothing to do about cars.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 27th August 2022
quotequote all
Pretty decisive !

PM3

1,192 posts

89 months

Saturday 27th August 2022
quotequote all
^ ony 1/3 have a negative view then ? of course it has moved since. I suppose that most people on here have a fair stake in markets and are inclined to be not negative in general regarding what might happen
Quite a small poll sample so far

Heathwood

3,032 posts

231 months

Saturday 27th August 2022
quotequote all
I think the markets will fall. Then they’ll go back up again. I don’t know when these events will happen and to what magnitude so I’ll stay invested.

It’s not helped by media talk, such as the markets having tumbled / plunged 3% on Friday. 3%?! If we were talking about my weight, that would probably be the difference between pre/post morning st.

glennjamin

443 posts

92 months

Saturday 27th August 2022
quotequote all
Having lost so much I would be cautious putting more cash in.Its so hard to predict the bottom of the dip.

stichill99

1,215 posts

210 months

Sunday 28th August 2022
quotequote all
Speaking to quite a few business owners lately and their energy bills are truly frightening. A lot are going to pack in production. I spoke to a potato farmer whose cold store is going from £100'000 to approx £800'000. The cost of growing potatoes has doubled this year with fert.sprays.fuel etc. He is stopping growing because the market future prices does not come near making it profitable. Replicate this across country and it is truly frightening!

jfdi

1,334 posts

204 months

Sunday 28th August 2022
quotequote all
James6112 said:
Pretty decisive !
I'm going with the 1%

gotoPzero

20,658 posts

218 months

Sunday 28th August 2022
quotequote all
OP watch Pensioncraft and Clear Value Tax. (on youtube)

One is UK based the other is US based. They both, IMHO, give fairly balanced views.

Both are saying similar things.

rdjohn

7,156 posts

224 months

Monday 29th August 2022
quotequote all
I am with - About the same.

If the war in Ukraine ended tomorrow, I would go for better.

If the war ended with a Nuclear exchange, then I would go for much worse.

Worldwide inflation alone, means that there are some winners. Those with no disposable income will suffer most, but do not have the biggest impact on equities.

ooid

6,642 posts

129 months

Monday 29th August 2022
quotequote all
Well, Bezos just tweeted this yesterday. Nobody is safe from a bear market. hehe



Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

270 months

Monday 29th August 2022
quotequote all
clubsport said:
matt21 said:
I would have thought all the winter doom and gloom is now baked in,.
Did you make that assumption before J Powells Jackson Hole speech yesterday. with the subtle reference to "keeping at it" ( Volcker) ?
I was going to say the exact same thing.

“Priced in” or “baked in” are proven to be completely impossible states given what happened on Friday, when USA’s FRB’s Mr Powell basically re-phrased what he’d said weeks ago.

The markets are running so heavily on greed and fear right now, they’re flapping around based on how someone phrases the same messages.



You only need to look at their plots of expected inflation, vs actual, at each FRB meeting over the last 18 months, and the same for expected interest rate rises, vs actual.

It’s not getting better.

mattyprice4004

1,342 posts

203 months

Monday 29th August 2022
quotequote all
Worse.
With everything going on in both the UK and the world I really can’t see how markets will rally IMO.

nunpuncher

3,763 posts

154 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
quotequote all
Who knows. At least 1 professional has set an S&P 500 target of 4800 by the end of the year while others have set targets of mid 3000s. They can't all be right. To me it suggests there's some rough seas ahead.

Derek Chevalier

4,659 posts

202 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
quotequote all
nunpuncher said:
Who knows. At least 1 professional has set an S&P 500 target of 4800 by the end of the year while others have set targets of mid 3000s. They can't all be right. To me it suggests there's some rough seas ahead.
I'm not aware of any "professionals" setting targets.