UK banking rules in biggest shake-up in more than 30 years
UK banking rules in biggest shake-up in more than 30 years
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robinessex

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11,888 posts

205 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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UK banking rules in biggest shake-up in more than 30 years

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63905505

The government has announced what it describes as one of the biggest overhauls of financial regulation for more than three decades.

It says the package of more than 30 reforms will "cut red tape" and "turbocharge growth".
Rules that forced banks to legally separate retail banking from riskier investment operations will be reviewed.
Those were introduced after the 2008 financial crisis when some banks faced collapse.
The package of changes is being presented as an example of post-Brexit freedom to tailor regulation specifically to the needs and strengths of the UK economy.
However, critics say it risks forgetting the lessons of the financial crisis.
Between 2007 and 2009 the then Labour government spent £137bn of public money to bail out banks........continues

Here we go again. Beyond belief. What's that favourite saying of the government when something's gone wrong? " Lessons have been learnt".

CypSIdders

1,234 posts

178 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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What could, possibly, go wrong? FFS!

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

154 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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Government has a short memory apparently. No one in the banking world paid the price for their reckless actions so this will just encourage the same thing again


Can’t wait to get a 115% mortgage

abzmike

11,487 posts

130 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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2008 - lessons will be learned… we must never allow this to happen again…
2022 - nah, stuff that, let’s make more money!

RogerDodgerSuperTodger

6,025 posts

210 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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Time for some nice fees for A&O et al again hehe

The Leaper

5,525 posts

230 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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As I recall, I think it was the then Labour government in the 1990s that first "relaxed" the banking rules in place at the time that led, in part, to the events of 2008.

As has been said: Lessons are never learned by governments, whatever their colour.

R.

wiffmaster

2,617 posts

222 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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Short term growth at the expense of long term stability. But then no government ever looks more than 5 years into the future, because they know it won't be their problem to sort out.

SMCR - on paper if not in execution - had teeth. Senior Managers always had it in the back of their minds, and we've seen most of our clients prioritise their risk / fincrime functions as a result. Watering it down under the auspices of "it takes a while for foreign nationals to get certified and it makes the UK less attractive" is nonsense. Because ultimately, those Senior Managers and their families don't want to live in Frankfurt or Paris, they want to live in London - so they jump through the hoops. Loosening the rules on ring-fencing is a bit of a moot point; given the billions the major players spent setting it up (e.g. sort code migrations / separate functions), nobody of note is going to undo it.

RichTT

3,266 posts

195 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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The Leaper said:
As I recall, I think it was the then Labour government in the 1990s that first "relaxed" the banking rules in place at the time that led, in part, to the events of 2008.

As has been said: Lessons are never learned by governments, whatever their colour.

R.
“Governments never learn. Only people learn.”

― Milton Friedman

monkfish1

12,256 posts

248 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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abzmike said:
2008 - lessons will be learned… we must never allow this to happen again…
2022 - nah, stuff that, let’s make more money!
Or more specifically, money for chums.

Those pesky rules getting in the way. Just remove them.

Tom8

5,741 posts

178 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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Shows how skint we are and we need the city to start pumping cash back in. Perhaps finally we may see one benefit of Brexit, that we can shift to low tax (laughable right now) low regulation economy. Didn't Corbyn call it Singapore on Sea?

Dingu

4,893 posts

54 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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Stupid. We haven’t really recovered from 2008 yet. Only just got to the point where savings have had any form of meaningful interest.

monkfish1

12,256 posts

248 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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Dingu said:
Stupid. We haven’t really recovered from 2008 yet. Only just got to the point where savings have had any form of meaningful interest.
No one cares about your savings. Only how much money they can make/steal at your expense.

Once you relaise that, everything else makes sense.

Dingu

4,893 posts

54 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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monkfish1 said:
Dingu said:
Stupid. We haven’t really recovered from 2008 yet. Only just got to the point where savings have had any form of meaningful interest.
No one cares about your savings. Only how much money they can make/steal at your expense.

Once you relaise that, everything else makes sense.
Well quite. But then the government/top 1% can’t get too upset when nobody bothers saving and needs a bailout every time things go wrong.

Terminator X

19,819 posts

228 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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One rule for bankers and another worse rule for the voters? Sounds familiar.

TX.

ATG

23,169 posts

296 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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Unless the US changes its banking regs, tinkering with domestic British stuff is going to make fk all difference. No one is going to reverse the separation of their investment and retail arms. Streamlining the approval process for senior staff, allowing insurers to invest in a wider range of low risk assets, these are all good ideas, but they're marginal little improvements. They're not comparable to "the big bang" liberalisation of the 80s.

snoopy25

2,067 posts

144 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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Well this has all the markings of a st show coming up.....

Caddyshack

14,223 posts

230 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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Well this a rosy old thread.

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

107 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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We had ficticious prosperity till a few weeks ago. Long enough ago to engineer more ficticious prosperity.

mike9009

9,806 posts

267 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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We need to make things to make money, not print money to make money.

mike9009

9,806 posts

267 months

Friday 9th December 2022
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We need to make things to make money, not print money to make money.