Investment options (inheritance)
Investment options (inheritance)
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Dawg

Original Poster:

578 posts

198 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
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Hi - my Mum sadly passed away this year and left me and my brother her house which has been valued at £200k - it’s currently up for sale.

So following any sale, what’s the best way to invest £100k?


ferret50

2,755 posts

33 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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The obvious PH answer is simple, coke and hookers!

But more seriously, we would need a bit more information to offer help;
Age
Aims
Do you have any debt/loans?
Any pension?

gotoPzero

20,112 posts

213 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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What he said.


Dawg

Original Poster:

578 posts

198 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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Hahaha. Hookers and coke? More like the M&S catalogue and a cup of tea for me.

I'm 52, married, 1 daughter, home owner (10 years left on mortgage currently fixed £400p/m) self employed and no pension.

No serious loans or debts. Paying off a recent kitchen installation but aside from that, just the usual expenses.


Just to mention, at some point in the future i'll be receiving another inheritance of a similar amount.

Mr Overheads

2,598 posts

200 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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Dawg said:
Hahaha. Hookers and coke? More like the M&S catalogue and a cup of tea for me.

I'm 52, married, 1 daughter, home owner (10 years left on mortgage currently fixed £400p/m) self employed and no pension.

No serious loans or debts. Paying off a recent kitchen installation but aside from that, just the usual expenses.


Just to mention, at some point in the future i'll be receiving another inheritance of a similar amount.
No pension, then max out your pension contributions this tax year and next year (do it now and April 6th 24)
Set aside lump sum as cash for paying off a lump of mortgage when fixed rate ends (assuming it's fixed at a nice low rate and you didn't fix recently)
If that leaves anything then ISA on dividend paying stocks or accumulating fund or similar.
Have fun with £10k , cars, holiday.

Dawg

Original Poster:

578 posts

198 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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Mr Overheads said:
Dawg said:
Hahaha. Hookers and coke? More like the M&S catalogue and a cup of tea for me.

I'm 52, married, 1 daughter, home owner (10 years left on mortgage currently fixed £400p/m) self employed and no pension.

No serious loans or debts. Paying off a recent kitchen installation but aside from that, just the usual expenses.


Just to mention, at some point in the future i'll be receiving another inheritance of a similar amount.
No pension, then max out your pension contributions this tax year and next year (do it now and April 6th 24)
Set aside lump sum as cash for paying off a lump of mortgage when fixed rate ends (assuming it's fixed at a nice low rate and you didn't fix recently)
If that leaves anything then ISA on dividend paying stocks or accumulating fund or similar.
Have fun with £10k , cars, holiday.
Sounds good. What's the maximum amount you can put away a year?

ferret50

2,755 posts

33 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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At 52, you have a short(ish!) period to build a pension pot, most providers will be thinking 'maintain the value' rather than 'build the capital'.

Both you and your 'er indoors can bung £20k into an ISA now, and repeat for next tax year, offering tax free returns when you retire and want to draw an income.

The remainder can be held in an instant access account against a lump off the mortgage as suggested above and as 'treat' money.



Dawg

Original Poster:

578 posts

198 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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I had thought to use half of it as a deposit on another property and let it out. You can readily find terraced houses up here for £100k...

Any thoughts about that?

Muzzer79

12,738 posts

211 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Dawg said:
I had thought to use half of it as a deposit on another property and let it out. You can readily find terraced houses up here for £100k...

Any thoughts about that?
How much do you know about property management?

I would have thought that at that end of the market, you’ll be dealing with low end tenants, which can be massive hassle (there was another thread on here about a chap who had a nightmare tenant destroying his house and not paying any rent)

If you don’t have a pension, chucking it in there can significantly reduce your tax liability and it’s literally hassle free.


NH-0

671 posts

120 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Everyone seems to be getting out of BTL.

£20k stocks and shares ISA in a low cost global tracker. Then in April 24 and you can put another £20k in.

Fill up your pension, pay down mortgage, pay off any debt?

Blow half of it, if you get divorced in future you will lose half anyway?


ferret50

2,755 posts

33 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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Muzzer79 said:
Dawg said:
I had thought to use half of it as a deposit on another property and let it out. You can readily find terraced houses up here for £100k...

Any thoughts about that?
How much do you know about property management?

I would have thought that at that end of the market, you’ll be dealing with low end tenants, which can be massive hassle (there was another thread on here about a chap who had a nightmare tenant destroying his house and not paying any rent)

If you don’t have a pension, chucking it in there can significantly reduce your tax liability and it’s literally hassle free.
Higher rate of Stamp Duty going in and CGT coming out.....

If your self employment is within the building trade, then you will be able to assess and buy better than others.

5pen

2,130 posts

230 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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What’s the interest rate on the mortgage? Is it fixed? For how long?

At your age, you only have 3 years to wait until you can start accessing a pension. It doesn’t give it much time to grow, but it does mean you aren’t locking it away for too long should you need it and it does have significant tax advantages. Depending on your income and tax position you could potentially avoid paying income tax by contributing to a pension and then access that money with a 25% tax free sweetener in just 3 years.

It really depends on your debt terms and personal income and tax situation, and then depending on that look at a combination of reducing the mortgage, contributing to a pension and contributing to ISAs

brickwall

5,332 posts

234 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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At 52 with no pension I think the answer is clear.

Assuming the mortgage isn’t about to skyrocket, then I think you really need some provision for your retirement.

So:
£40k into pension and £20k into ISA this tax year.
Put the remaining £40k into pension after 6th April next year.

Keep working and pay off the mortgage.

If/when you get another inheritance then you can pay off any remaining mortgage, and do the same again across pension/ISA.

Mazinbrum

1,235 posts

202 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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brickwall said:
At 52 with no pension I think the answer is clear.

Assuming the mortgage isn’t about to skyrocket, then I think you really need some provision for your retirement.

So:
£40k into pension and £20k into ISA this tax year.
Put the remaining £40k into pension after 6th April next year.

Keep working and pay off the mortgage.

If/when you get another inheritance then you can pay off any remaining mortgage, and do the same again across pension/ISA.
Annual allowance has gone up from 40k to 60k.

Dawg

Original Poster:

578 posts

198 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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Thanks for the replies, it's much appreciated - interesting that the idea of property purchase is not on anyone's radar for good reason it seems...


bompey

619 posts

259 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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Mazinbrum said:
Annual allowance has gone up from 40k to 60k.
But only if you earn £60k or more. The annual limit is up to 100% of earnings or £60k, whichever is the lower.

GiantEnemyCrab

7,966 posts

227 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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Reminder that you also have previous years pension allowances to use too, which could be up to 120k

Ed.Neumann

1,170 posts

32 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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Why not pay off your mortgage?

If it has 10 years left and is £400 a month there must be about £40k'ish remaining?

I would be paying that off, owning you home outright changes everything, no matter how bad things get out there you have a home.

Then invest the remaining £60k.

Plus you have another £400 a month to put into any investments too.

Plus if you fancy taking some time off to travel etc. if you don't have mortgage payments it is far easier to justify when self employed.

bitchstewie

64,412 posts

234 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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That would be my take on it.

I know there's a bit of a thing sometimes of "I'm paying 2% on a mortgage when I can save @ 6%" but (and I'm no maths genius) those mortgage payments compound.

And waking up totally debt free with money in the bank is a very nice feeling psychologically.

The Gauge

6,582 posts

37 months

Sunday 8th October 2023
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Dawg said:
Just to mention, at some point in the future i'll be receiving another inheritance of a similar amount.
I can't offer any financial advice, but factor in the remote possibility of not actually receiving the future expected inheritance. That might sound weird but I was lined up for a decent inheritance but things changed due to unforeseen circumstances and I didn't receive anything. Obviously plan on receiving it, but be mindful of anything that might prevent that happening. The phrase 'Don't count your chickens before they've hatched' etc.