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Franco5

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491 posts

83 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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The junior content editors have been busy with their creative writing again or are there many couples who aren’t being subsidised (and we all know there are plenty that are) with a £3k joint net income riding around in what must be a £100k motor, servicing a £425k mortgage while ignoring at least £44k of other debt.

If true they’d be best served spending the next couple of years getting rid of some debt before the fix ends and they get smashed to smithereens.

“She’s recently moved into a £500,000 four-bedroom house with her partner. They sold their respective homes and used £75,000 as a deposit, leaving them with a nest egg of £80,000 to spend as they choose.

Currently, they’ve stashed £20,000 away in an Isa, but the couple are struggling to work out what to do with the rest of their money.

The couple’s monthly post-tax income works out at approximately £3,000, and because Ms Berhardien ported over her 1.5pc mortgage to the new house, that rate won’t run out until October 2025.

But her mortgage payments jumped from £500 a month to £1,800 and she is worried about how much more they will rise. She said: “That’s something in the back of our minds thinking critically, how do we prepare for that?”

The couple also pay £600 a month towards their car, which they have leased as a PCP. The contract will run out in three years, with a balloon payment of £40,000 at the end.

She has £44,000 of student debt, having graduated in 2016, and doesn’t know if it would be worth paying this off.”

GiantEnemyCrab

7,966 posts

227 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Link missing?

Franco5

Original Poster:

491 posts

83 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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GiantEnemyCrab said:
Link missing?
Apologies. Enjoy! https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs...

Blocked by the paywall? Disable Java x

AllyM

520 posts

200 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Such nonsense should not even make publication.

Simpo Two

91,612 posts

289 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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'nest egg of £80,000 to spend as they choose... Currently, they’ve stashed £20,000 away in an Isa, but the couple are struggling to work out what to do with the rest of their money.'

I'll take it off their hands - making one less problem for them to wrestle with. Clearly these people's incomes exceed their IQ.

2gins

2,860 posts

186 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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I expected more vitriol in 90 minutes to be honest, towards the daft couple, the publication and the OP.

This place isn't what it used to be!

Percy Cushion

1,271 posts

244 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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Why is this even ‘news’?

Cats_pyjamas

1,862 posts

172 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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I don't get these stories. Talk about 1st world problems. Seemingly intelligent people overstretching themselves with little foresight; and then crying about the decisions they have made. They were quite happy to take advantage of cheap finance while it was available.

jonathan_roberts

558 posts

32 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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Is the £500-1800/month mortgage interest only?

phil-sti

2,957 posts

203 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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There must be a lot in the article we don't know about and doesn't make sense so i'm going to say

she isn't earning enough to repay her student loan yet her and her partners both had houses that had £155k in equity? Maybe a cash windfall from parents bought the original house but with only 3k after tax per month how have they got a £425k mortgage?

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47,775 posts

220 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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How have they managed to get a £425k mortgage on approx £60k salary? confused

Motorman74

485 posts

45 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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Am I missing something here? Their take home is roughly 3K a month, their mortgage is 1800, car is 600 - so that's 2400. Leaving roughly 600 a month.

Council tax on a 4 bed 500K house? Gas, Electric? I can't see that leaving a great deal left over - if anything...

How did they pass affordability checks, and what are they paying for food with, if not by dipping into that nest egg?

Hammersia

1,564 posts

39 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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They don't sound so badly off, 44k in student loans is not strictly a debt (Martin Lewis et al) and the car might be a bit extravagant but guessing it's a nice electric one that saves on tax, ULEZ and petrol.

House equity none of us can control, might go up, might go down. Interest rates have likely peaked. They have a reasonable liquid cushion and are working.

These sort of threads tend to excite professionally undistinguished late sixty somethings who brought their house for buttons in the seventies and have had three or four inheritances and currently drive a Honda Jazz.

And who live to see others fail.

okgo

41,636 posts

222 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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Motorman74 said:
Am I missing something here? Their take home is roughly 3K a month, their mortgage is 1800, car is 600 - so that's 2400. Leaving roughly 600 a month.

Council tax on a 4 bed 500K house? Gas, Electric? I can't see that leaving a great deal left over - if anything...

How did they pass affordability checks, and what are they paying for food with, if not by dipping into that nest egg?
I think something is indeed missing.

£3k is about 50 grand a year l basically two people working in Lidl stacking shelves. Nobody is getting a £600 lease car and that mortgage on those numbers. Something else at play here.

Pathetic attempt to troll though.

Sarnie

8,326 posts

233 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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okgo said:
I think something is indeed missing.

£3k is about 50 grand a year l basically two people working in Lidl stacking shelves. Nobody is getting a £600 lease car and that mortgage on those numbers. Something else at play here.

Pathetic attempt to troll though.
Pension deductions/salary sacrifices etc etc possibly.......

They need gross income of at least £90k to secure a £425k mortgage.........

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47,775 posts

220 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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Franco5 said:
.........what must be a £100k motor,

......The couple also pay £600 a month towards their car, which they have leased as a PCP. The contract will run out in three years, with a balloon payment of £40,000 at the end.
Sorry if I misunderstood...is the £100k motor different to the one they have leased at £600pcm?

As this is PH...what are they? smile

pete_esp

324 posts

119 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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Hammersia said:
They don't sound so badly off, 44k in student loans is not strictly a debt (Martin Lewis et al) and the car might be a bit extravagant but guessing it's a nice electric one that saves on tax, ULEZ and petrol.

House equity none of us can control, might go up, might go down. Interest rates have likely peaked. They have a reasonable liquid cushion and are working.

These sort of threads tend to excite professionally undistinguished late sixty somethings who brought their house for buttons in the seventies and have had three or four inheritances and currently drive a Honda Jazz.

And who live to see others fail.
The student debt may not be considered debt in the traditional sense, more of an additional tax bracket. It still needs to be paid until it's settled.
I know, I've been paying mine off for 16 years now and it has always been a sizeable chunk out off my take home.

Thankfully I'm clearing it this month and it will be the equivalent of the 2nd largest pay rise I've had in my life! (Just in time for my boiler to break down, how does the universe know these things?)

phil-sti

2,957 posts

203 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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There must be a lot in the article we don't know about and doesn't make sense so i'm going to say

she isn't earning enough to repay her student loan yet her and her partners both had houses that had £155k in equity? Maybe a cash windfall from parents bought the original house but with only 3k after tax per month how have they got a £425k mortgage?

pti

1,835 posts

168 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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As others have said, something is missing here.

No way would they get that mortgage on £3k household take home.

VeeReihenmotor6

2,546 posts

199 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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Absolute garbage. As others have said the numbers do not stack up. Perhaps she is making hefty pension contributions on a much larger salary to bring her net pay down to £3k per month? That would make some sense but the article writer should include this.