Mortgage Renewal and Moving and product fees
Mortgage Renewal and Moving and product fees
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LennyM1984

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1,050 posts

92 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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I think I know the answer to this but I'd be keen to hear the opinions of others.

Our mortgage is due for renewal next April. The outstanding loan is about 178k which represents just over 40% LTV.

My criteria for the new mortgage were flexibility and no early repayment fees (I am in quite a fortunate position whereby I can overpay up to 3k a month if I so wish - for the last year, that money has gone into savings as my current mortgage is fixed a 1.5%).

The reason for the "flexibility" is that we are planning to move next year (we've outgrown the house and I am fed up of working on my cars outside in the cold!).

Here's my conundrum...

My broker has found a variable rate mortgage (+0.25% vs base rate) which offers the flexibility and no fees but it costs £1k in product fees. I will pay this off immediately so as to attract no interest on it.

The follow on rate for my current mortgage is 7.5%.

Our house will likely go on the market in Feb/March. If it sells immediately and we move within 3 months, the variable rate mortgage will have cost me about £600 (Product fee - interest saved at 5.5 vs 7.5%). If it takes longer to sell, the interest saved > product fee. So essentially, it is a gamble.

What would others do in this situation?




Sarnie

8,326 posts

233 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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Get your broker to find a product with no lender arrangement fee......

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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LennyM1984 said:
I think I know the answer to this but I'd be keen to hear the opinions of others.

Our mortgage is due for renewal next April. The outstanding loan is about 178k which represents just over 40% LTV.

My criteria for the new mortgage were flexibility and no early repayment fees (I am in quite a fortunate position whereby I can overpay up to 3k a month if I so wish - for the last year, that money has gone into savings as my current mortgage is fixed a 1.5%).

The reason for the "flexibility" is that we are planning to move next year (we've outgrown the house and I am fed up of working on my cars outside in the cold!).

Here's my conundrum...

My broker has found a variable rate mortgage (+0.25% vs base rate) which offers the flexibility and no fees but it costs £1k in product fees. I will pay this off immediately so as to attract no interest on it.

The follow on rate for my current mortgage is 7.5%.

Our house will likely go on the market in Feb/March. If it sells immediately and we move within 3 months, the variable rate mortgage will have cost me about £600 (Product fee - interest saved at 5.5 vs 7.5%). If it takes longer to sell, the interest saved > product fee. So essentially, it is a gamble.

What would others do in this situation?
You would be very fortunate to sell and complete in around 3 months in the current market. Most of the houses that I have seen that have sold recently are taking 6 -9 months to complete at least, and a lot of them come back on the market after several months.

I would pitch your calculations with a more realistic timescale.


Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 8th December 09:57

LennyM1984

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1,050 posts

92 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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Bluequay said:
You would be very fortunate to sell and complete in around 3 months in the current market. Most of the houses that I have seen that have sold recently are taking 6 -9 months to complete at least, and a lot of them come back on the market after several months.

I would pitch your calculations with a more realistic timescale.


Edited by Bluequay on Friday 8th December 09:57
Thanks! That was kind of what I wanted to hear and a longer time frame would suit us fine... well apart from the lack of garage

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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LennyM1984 said:
Bluequay said:
You would be very fortunate to sell and complete in around 3 months in the current market. Most of the houses that I have seen that have sold recently are taking 6 -9 months to complete at least, and a lot of them come back on the market after several months.

I would pitch your calculations with a more realistic timescale.


Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 8th December 09:57
Thanks! That was kind of what I wanted to hear and a longer time frame would suit us fine... well apart from the lack of garage
We are putting our house on the Market in February with the hope of it being sold (completed) by November. No onward chain and we live in a very popular area. Hopefully now that interest rates have stabilised things will speed up, but who knows!

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 8th December 10:13

Sarnie

8,326 posts

233 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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We monitor the average completion times across the mortgages we provide.

FTB applications are currently at circa 3.5 months from application to completion, reflecting the usual lack of a chain.

NTB applications are just over 5.5 months from application to completion, reflecting the complications of a chain. We are currently completing lots of applications that started in the summer........

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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Sarnie said:
We monitor the average completion times across the mortgages we provide.

FTB applications are currently at circa 3.5 months from application to completion, reflecting the usual lack of a chain.

NTB applications are just over 5.5 months from application to completion, reflecting the complications of a chain. We are currently completing lots of applications that started in the summer........
That's good to hear, is it an improvement over the last few months?

Sarnie

8,326 posts

233 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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Bluequay said:
That's good to hear, is it an improvement over the last few months?
Timescales always shorten at this time of year as everyone is pushing for pre-Christmas completions..........