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steveo3002

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11,096 posts

198 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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I'm new to isa's, in August i opened a new one with full 20k into a 1 year fixed rate

in April id like to open another with a fresh 20k from savings , the blurb says i have 28 days to load it and can transfer existing isa's

so in April , apply for new one , send over 20k from savings ,the blurb suggest i can merge last years one , or do i need to wait until August when the 1 year fixed is up, then I'm well past the 28 days

in short are folk merging several years into one place or running multiple 20k here and there

duckson

1,304 posts

206 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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You can obviously do either but you can only pay new money into one Cash ISA in a tax year (£20k allowance spread across Cash, S&S, Lifetime etc ISA's).

Assuming you are opening the 'new' one as a 1yr fixed again? You should be able to transfer the existing 1yr fix to the new one but i'd suspect you'd have to pay a penalty (30, 60, 90 days etc interest usually, but you'd have to check for that ISA) to get out of the current 1yr fix.

That's one of the benefits of a fixed ISA, you can get at the money for a penalty, with a standard multi year fixed non-ISA account you wouldne be able to do that usually.

steveo3002

Original Poster:

11,096 posts

198 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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new one in april with a fresh 20k

dont want to loose, any 90 days /penalty (why would i? ) on the existing one that expires in aug 24 , so im stuck with having isa 1 aug-aug , and a new isa2 april-april ?

would have just been nice to lump it all together every year instead of having multiple ones , no big deal and like i say im new to isa

Edited by steveo3002 on Saturday 16th December 11:35

The Leaper

5,524 posts

230 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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If you keep "lumping" each year's ISA then in 4 years you'll be up against the FSCS limit of £85,000. Also, do you want all your eggs in one basket?

For these reasons my wife and I have quite a number of separate ISAs with different providers.

R.

steveo3002

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11,096 posts

198 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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yeah fair point on the 85k , im not up there yet

was just thinking all in one basket for ease of use , i can put the 2025 in for april and group with 2024

Panamax

8,522 posts

58 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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The Leaper said:
If you keep "lumping" each year's ISA then in 4 years you'll be up against the FSCS limit of £85,000.
Yes and no.

If it's, say, cash ISAs with one bank (or group of banks like Lloyds/Halifax) then yes, £85k is relevant.

If it's a stocks and shares ISA with broadly spread investments on a platform (Hargreaves Lansdown, Fidelity etc) then the £85k is much less relevant because your actual investments are generally not "in" the platform provider but "on" their platform. So if you're worried, just keep each investment under £85k.

(The above is over-simplified for ease of understanding. If concerned about the £85k make sure you check it out carefully, wherever you're putting your money.)

Hustle_

26,182 posts

184 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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This is the situation with most fixes. You can start a new ISA in future after the fixed period is up on your existing one and transfer your existing ISA into it and fund it with your £20k at the same time.

I’ve accumulated a few year’s worth in a flexible cash ISA. I didn’t want to fix and the rate has been within about a percent of the best fixes throughout.

I suspect most people who are fixing just have multiple pots. That’s quite nice in itself because depending on when you start them and their durations you can have funds maturing on a regular-ish basis

The Leaper

5,524 posts

230 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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Hustle_ said:
I suspect most people who are fixing just have multiple pots. That’s quite nice in itself because depending on when you start them and their durations you can have funds maturing on a regular-ish basis
That's what wife and I do with our ISAs. Differing regular maturing dates also prompts us to keep an eye on our investments and finances generally, which is no bad thing.

R.

duckson

1,304 posts

206 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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steveo3002 said:
dont want to loose, any 90 days /penalty (why would i? )
Depends what the interest rates are, it might be beneficial....I suspect now it wouldnt be but over the past couple of years it probably was as rates were rising monthly.

steveo3002

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11,096 posts

198 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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duckson said:
steveo3002 said:
dont want to loose, any 90 days /penalty (why would i? )
Depends what the interest rates are, it might be beneficial....I suspect now it wouldnt be but over the past couple of years it probably was as rates were rising monthly.
yeah got you