Origen Financial Planners
Origen Financial Planners
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okgo

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41,608 posts

222 months

Friday 26th July 2024
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Anyone used? Any feedback?

They seem to be affiliated with quite a few companies, inc the one I work for so we get unlimited advice from someone from Origin as a benefit - and it seems they are planners vs advisors which is good.

Premise being that you put in some of your objectives and get matched with someone who they have on their books that will most suit your profile and objectives (bit like dating match up I guess) - my only worry is that some of them appear to be at SJP practices which holds zero interest for me, but the chap I'm matches with is basically semi retired having had a long career in various firms, so looks to be totally impartial.

https://www.origenfs.co.uk


Edited by okgo on Friday 26th July 16:01

alscar

8,284 posts

237 months

Friday 26th July 2024
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okgo said:
Anyone used? Any feedback?

They seem to be affiliated with quite a few companies, inc the one I work for so we get unlimited advice from someone from Origin as a benefit - and it seems they are planners vs advisors which is good.

Premise being that you put in some of your objectives and get matched with someone who they have on their books that will most suit your profile and objectives (bit like dating match up I guess) - my only worry is that some of them appear to be at SJP practices which holds zero interest for me, but the chap I'm matches with is basically semi retired having had a long career in various firms, so looks to be totally impartial.

https://www.origenfs.co.uk


Edited by okgo on Friday 26th July 16:01
Origen are part of a much larger group ( Aegon ) so how truly independent they would be is something to be careful of perhaps and just be aware that they might try and push Aegon products - not saying that there is anything wrong with their products btw.
Don’t understand how and why Origen would refer anyone to an SJP partner practice though - they are competitors surely ?
Presumably though if that is the case you could simply refuse that “ date “.
No idea what their average returns and indeed charges are.


Burrow01

1,975 posts

216 months

Friday 26th July 2024
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I would be cautious of any connection to Aegon, in my experience (via my wifes pensions in both the UK and NL) they are particularly rubbish, both at investing your money, and communication around anything to do with it

chip*

1,660 posts

252 months

Saturday 27th July 2024
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okgo said:
Anyone used? Any feedback?

They seem to be affiliated with quite a few companies, inc the one I work for so we get unlimited advice from someone from Origin as a benefit - and it seems they are planners vs advisors which is good.

Premise being that you put in some of your objectives and get matched with someone who they have on their books that will most suit your profile and objectives (bit like dating match up I guess) - my only worry is that some of them appear to be at SJP practices which holds zero interest for me, but the chap I'm matches with is basically semi retired having had a long career in various firms, so looks to be totally impartial.

https://www.origenfs.co.uk


Edited by okgo on Friday 26th July 16:01
from website said:
Aegon Financial Planning provides restricted advice on a limited range of carefully selected investments, designed to help your money grow over the long term.
I wouldn't class this as impartial, but since it's a free service, worth a chat and then only you can decide if they can fully accommodate your needs.

steve_n

438 posts

226 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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People get hung up on independent advisers, when in practice they're working in a similar way to most restricted ones. They'll have a shortlist of products and investments they actually use on a regular basis with clients, just like a restricted adviser uses whatever is on their panel. They won't be searching the whole of the market each and every time, recommending something unique for each client.

If you like the cut of their jib then it doesn't matter whether they only sell you a limited range of products/investments, so long as they're decent ones. It matters that you get a good planner who gives you sound advice about your circumstances, picking investments is just a box ticking exercise from a preapproved list based on a risk level and degree of involvement you want to have.

Financial advice is a sales role, but the best ones actually give you more out of the process.

okgo

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41,608 posts

222 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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I haven’t any interest in using products tied to one company. So if it does turn out to be like that it’ll be short lived.

Simpo Two

91,579 posts

289 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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steve_n said:
People get hung up on independent advisers, when in practice they're working in a similar way to most restricted ones. They'll have a shortlist of products and investments they actually use on a regular basis with clients...
A former IFA of mine said they liked LV because the (female) rep was very nice. It's all just sales.

TownIdiot

3,527 posts

23 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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okgo said:
I haven’t any interest in using products tied to one company. So if it does turn out to be like that it’ll be short lived.
This is from their website

Aegon Financial Planning
Aegon Financial Planning provides restricted advice on a limited range of carefully selected investments, designed to help your money grow over the long term.

So you might get a good advisor who says
I can sell you this but you'd be better off elsewhere and even if they did, he couldn't advise you where.

There is an interesting thread on here about someone with a million a quid in cash and a poster has come up with a list of investments and a high level strategy. You won't get that from what is in effect a tied agent - they will just be able to sell you some broadly market proximate products. And I've got no idea how good or bad Aegon are.

An independent advisor will in return for a fee give you strategic and product advice that you will be free to follow yourself if you choose.




okgo

Original Poster:

41,608 posts

222 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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I’ve already sorted everything anyway. Just wanted a sounding board. Will see what happens.

steve_n

438 posts

226 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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Simpo Two said:
A former IFA of mine said they liked LV because the (female) rep was very nice. It's all just sales.
Exactly. When you go to a one man band IFA they're far more susceptible to this than a larger company that will do a lot more due diligence on what gets panelled.

DoubleSix

12,391 posts

200 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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steve_n said:
People get hung up on independent advisers, when in practice they're working in a similar way to most restricted ones. They'll have a shortlist of products and investments they actually use on a regular basis with clients, just like a restricted adviser uses whatever is on their panel. They won't be searching the whole of the market each and every time, recommending something unique for each client.

If you like the cut of their jib then it doesn't matter whether they only sell you a limited range of products/investments, so long as they're decent ones. It matters that you get a good planner who gives you sound advice about your circumstances, picking investments is just a box ticking exercise from a preapproved list based on a risk level and degree of involvement you want to have.

Financial advice is a sales role, but the best ones actually give you more out of the process.
Strongly disagree with most of that, except the very last bit.

steve_n

438 posts

226 months

Sunday 28th July 2024
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DoubleSix said:
Strongly disagree with most of that, except the very last bit.
Can you please elaborate?

okgo

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41,608 posts

222 months

Monday 29th July 2024
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Well it was totally impartial, no mention of anything in terms of 'you should invest in this" - the only thing they could offer was guidance. I can see how it would be a very very useful service for employees of larger firms.

Not much use to me as he said I had all my bases covered, but that was useful to hear in itself.