Charging son rent - tax?
Charging son rent - tax?
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Puggit

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49,462 posts

272 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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Our son is now 18 and has gone straight out post A-Levels to work. We have told him we are charging him 25% of his take home as rent. The idea is to pool this money and give it back to him to use as a deposit for a home when the time is right.

What are the tax implications here? Is it easier to just get him to put this money in to his own account or can we keep it and not have to pay tax either when he gives it to us or when we give it back?

Thanks!

PoorCarCollector

242 posts

44 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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HMRC rent a room scheme @ up to £7500 a year (no tax)

https://www.gov.uk/rent-room-in-your-home/the-rent...

TownIdiot

3,527 posts

23 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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You can receive up to 7500 tax free under the rent a room scheme.

Only potential tax i can see is interest on savings if you are over that threshold or CGT on any gains when you cash in.

TwigtheWonderkid

48,107 posts

174 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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Puggit said:
Our son is now 18 and has gone straight out post A-Levels to work. We have told him we are charging him 25% of his take home as rent. The idea is to pool this money and give it back to him to use as a deposit for a home when the time is right.
Did the same for my lads. After 8 years of paying rent, with no idea it was coming back when they were going to buy, it was a pretty helpful £40K+ lump of cash.

BoRED S2upid

20,993 posts

264 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Puggit said:
Our son is now 18 and has gone straight out post A-Levels to work. We have told him we are charging him 25% of his take home as rent. The idea is to pool this money and give it back to him to use as a deposit for a home when the time is right.
Did the same for my lads. After 8 years of paying rent, with no idea it was coming back when they were going to buy, it was a pretty helpful £40K+ lump of cash.
Likewise my parents did this for me 25 years ago. Great way to save for a deposit as I’d have spent most of that on cars.

ARHarh

4,892 posts

131 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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My parents charged me 15% of my take home, but never gave any of it back to me. They just spent it on holidays and stuff. Mind you it encouraged me to move out.

VeeReihenmotor6

2,543 posts

199 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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Good idea, in additional also get your son to set up a Lifetime ISA. You can put up to £3,000 in per year and the government tops up by £1,000. The funds can be used to buy a house or, if you have a house already and are under 40, you can open an account and save for retirement.

Seems free money your son so worth setting up if the purpose is to save for a house deposit.


okgo

41,608 posts

222 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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ARHarh said:
My parents charged me 15% of my take home, but never gave any of it back to me. They just spent it on holidays and stuff. Mind you it encouraged me to move out.
Ditto

MadCaptainJack

1,710 posts

64 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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ARHarh said:
My parents charged me 15% of my take home, but never gave any of it back to me. They just spent it on holidays and stuff. Mind you it encouraged me to move out.
Sounds like Mission Accomplished! hehe

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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Why not force him to save that 25% into an ISA or something?

SunsetZed

2,910 posts

194 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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VeeReihenmotor6 said:
Good idea, in additional also get your son to set up a Lifetime ISA. You can put up to £3,000 in per year and the government tops up by £1,000. The funds can be used to buy a house or, if you have a house already and are under 40, you can open an account and save for retirement.

Seems free money your son so worth setting up if the purpose is to save for a house deposit.
Agreed although it's £4,000 a year not £3,000 you can put in.

I plan to take this approach with my kids as well, worked well for my parents.

markbigears

2,485 posts

293 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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Mine just charged me and I never saw a bean.
When I moved out, my mortgage was cheaper smile
Gotta love ‘em

LastPoster

3,162 posts

207 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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ARHarh said:
My parents charged me 15% of my take home, but never gave any of it back to me. They just spent it on holidays and stuff. Mind you it encouraged me to move out.
They didn't spend on food that you ate then?

98elise

31,553 posts

185 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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PoorCarCollector said:
HMRC rent a room scheme @ up to £7500 a year (no tax)

https://www.gov.uk/rent-room-in-your-home/the-rent...
In addition when people charge their kids "rent" it's really a contribution to the general household bills. You're not taking them on a lodger/tenant. Most people I know call it "keep" not rent.

Same if a couple live together but one owns the property. If the other contributes to the household it's not rent unless it's a formal arrangement.

MadCaptainJack

1,710 posts

64 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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LastPoster said:
They didn't spend on food that you ate then?
Or the utility bills. Or the council tax. Or the cleaning, general maintenance, and upkeep...


mikey_b

2,528 posts

69 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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LastPoster said:
ARHarh said:
My parents charged me 15% of my take home, but never gave any of it back to me. They just spent it on holidays and stuff. Mind you it encouraged me to move out.
They didn't spend on food that you ate then?
He doesn’t give details of what he got for that, but most youngsters starting work and paying ‘keep’ pay it to cover the extra electricity, heating and hot water, their laundry, food and cooking it for them, phone bills, toiletries - the list goes on. 15% seems pretty reasonable for what amounts to a full hotel service!

LastPoster

3,162 posts

207 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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Both my sons give me 10%. It’s a token amount really as it doesn’t even cover the food biglaugh but it’s about responsibility

In the same way I also encourage them to save in the most advantageous ways and take advantage of company pension contributions etc. All stuff that didn’t exist when I was their age (for me at least)

Puzzles

3,296 posts

135 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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My brother and I paid £250 each, but that was about 20 years ago!

TwigtheWonderkid

48,107 posts

174 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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LastPoster said:
ARHarh said:
My parents charged me 15% of my take home, but never gave any of it back to me. They just spent it on holidays and stuff. Mind you it encouraged me to move out.
They didn't spend on food that you ate then?
No, they spent it on holidays and stuff. As he said.

If parents need their kids rent to cover essential bills like for and utilities fair enough. But then they wouldn't be going on holiday. But parents who don't need the money actually charging their own kids for food and electricity, sorry, I just can't get my head around that concept.

By all means make them pay rent, but ultimately don't spend it if you don't need it. Save it for them to use in their first property purchase.

98elise

31,553 posts

185 months

Friday 20th September 2024
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I don't charge my kids anything, however they both buy and prepare most of their own food. My son works shifts and my daughter only lives here 50% of the time so they are very independent of us as parents.

They are also both saving hard for their own properties so no need to use "keep" as a means to help them later.

If they wasted their money I might think different.

Edited by 98elise on Saturday 21st September 00:41