Trading 212
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Ari

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19,738 posts

235 months

Wednesday 8th October
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A friend of mine was raving about Trading 212 recently - seems it's all about 'pies', where they diversify in certain segments.

Had a quick look online out of interest, and if nothing else, it looks a pretty cheap way to invest.

super7

2,169 posts

228 months

Wednesday 8th October
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Yes.... very good. Pies allow you to buy shares based on the percentage of exposure you want to each stock. Each stock can be bought as fractional shares and includes UK and all the US stock markets, so you can get shares in NVIDEA, ARM, Soundhound etc etc without having to buy a whole share.

I have 2 pies at the moment. One for AI based companies and one for Oil Stocks that pay a dividend. The AI pie is currently up 23% and the Oil one is up 10%.

The dealing is free but you obviously pay for it from the spread.

Once you get your head around how the pies are set up and managed, it's a good platform. Lot's of data on there as well.

Crudeoink

1,218 posts

79 months

Wednesday 8th October
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A pie is just a mini-portfolio really. You can assign loads of different shares or ETF's to it and set percentages (i.e 2 shares at 25% and 75% respectively) if you regularly invest say £100 it will automatically put £25 into one share and £75 into another, it will also automatically redistribute dividends and you can 'rebalance' the pie / mini portfolio so if one share does really well and is worth say 50% of the pie instead of the 25% you were aiming for it can sell shares to get the split closer to the 25% and 75% you specified. There's a community where you can copy other peoples pies and discuss shares etc too.

Juan B

630 posts

24 months

Wednesday 8th October
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Its a good platform, pretty straight forward to use.

And any money you have on your account that you haven't invested will get 4.05% interest on.

bmwmike

8,180 posts

128 months

Wednesday 8th October
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I'm a big fan. Went from a bit of free trading with fun money to having a full isa's worth in there.

The pies are great - i've got one for european defense stocks and one for global dividend paying etfs - four etf's in the pie. I also hold bits and bobs outside a pie. Pies are like folders so you can add and withdraw from your own risk weighted, or industry weighted, or whatever, sub-portfolios.

Daily interest is super cool too.

So i withdraw when my pies get fat, get the cash, then when the pies drop down below an amount i push the cash back into the pie, and recycle.

Great for cyclical stuff.

ferret50

2,573 posts

29 months

Friday 10th October
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I have run an 'Invest' (GIA) account with T212 for a while now. I pretty much had £20k in there at the start of this tax year so moved it to a Shocks and Stares ISA with them.

Just over £28k this morning.....

Still have the Invest account as well, I fund it from my current account and use T212's debit card for the 1.5% cash back into a pie in which I am growing a BP share!

hehe

Simbu

1,868 posts

194 months

Friday 10th October
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Do T212 pies differ in their goals or benefits from ETFs at all?

The likes of Blackrock and Vanguard provide ETFs that cover pretty much any industrial sector you could want.

bmwmike

8,180 posts

128 months

Friday 10th October
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Simbu said:
Do T212 pies differ in their goals or benefits from ETFs at all?

The likes of Blackrock and Vanguard provide ETFs that cover pretty much any industrial sector you could want.
Yes and no.

Yes they differ in that you can put an industrial ETF and a precious metals ETF into a pie and call it a Gold ETF if you want, but its different, so they differ.

No, in that if you put a Gold ETF into a pie with nothing else, it behaves exactly the same way as if you held it outside the pie.

Just think of pies like folders on your computer - you put files in folders, you put stocks/ETFs etc in Pies.

robinh73

1,226 posts

220 months

Friday 10th October
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I have been toying with opening an account with Trading 212. I will put my hands up and say I am a complete novice with investing. I use Moneybox linked to my current account and have stocks and shares ISA which I have set to a high risk option. For me the beauty of Moneybox is that being a novice it seems to do it all for me but would using Trading 212 be similar? I am sorry if this is all very vague but I am as mentioned very much a novice.

Crudeoink

1,218 posts

79 months

Friday 10th October
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robinh73 said:
I have been toying with opening an account with Trading 212. I will put my hands up and say I am a complete novice with investing. I use Moneybox linked to my current account and have stocks and shares ISA which I have set to a high risk option. For me the beauty of Moneybox is that being a novice it seems to do it all for me but would using Trading 212 be similar? I am sorry if this is all very vague but I am as mentioned very much a novice.
I'd say T212 is a bit more complicated but only from the POV that you can't just select a risk profile and invest money. You need to choose specific stocks or funds to invest in which requires some research. The platform and app is much better though (that said I haven't been on Moneybox for a few years)

robinh73

1,226 posts

220 months

Friday 10th October
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Crudeoink said:
I'd say T212 is a bit more complicated but only from the POV that you can't just select a risk profile and invest money. You need to choose specific stocks or funds to invest in which requires some research. The platform and app is much better though (that said I haven't been on Moneybox for a few years)
That is what I suspected. Moneybox is very good and I have added some specific funds to the portfolio in there, but the choices are limited hence I have been contemplating Trading 212 to allow for more specific stocks etc. I guess that this is where my lack of knowledge is going to let me down with T212.

James_N

3,252 posts

254 months

Wednesday 12th November
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I've opened up an account. I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing but chucked £1 in it for now and it's been invested in Heineken.

I'll have to do some more research as i'm a complete newbie to it!

200Plus Club

12,610 posts

298 months

Wednesday 12th November
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James_N said:
I've opened up an account. I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing but chucked £1 in it for now and it's been invested in Heineken.

I'll have to do some more research as i'm a complete newbie to it!
I'm investing in brewdog shortly, via tescos.

Juan B

630 posts

24 months

Wednesday 12th November
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James_N said:
I've opened up an account. I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing but chucked £1 in it for now and it's been invested in Heineken.

I'll have to do some more research as i'm a complete newbie to it!
The practice/virtual account is quite good if you want to get used to how it works without actually putting any money down.

Luke.

11,632 posts

270 months

Wednesday 12th November
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200Plus Club said:
James_N said:
I've opened up an account. I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing but chucked £1 in it for now and it's been invested in Heineken.

I'll have to do some more research as i'm a complete newbie to it!
I'm investing in brewdog shortly, via tescos.
How? I don't think they're listed.

Vsix and Vtec

1,220 posts

38 months

Wednesday 12th November
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Luke. said:
200Plus Club said:
James_N said:
I've opened up an account. I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing but chucked £1 in it for now and it's been invested in Heineken.

I'll have to do some more research as i'm a complete newbie to it!
I'm investing in brewdog shortly, via tescos.
How? I don't think they're listed.
Would you like your parrot to be a blue and yellow maccaw or an African grey?

Luke.

11,632 posts

270 months

Wednesday 12th November
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Vsix and Vtec said:
Would you like your parrot to be a blue and yellow maccaw or an African grey?
Yes.

KobayashiMaru86

1,797 posts

230 months

Wednesday 12th November
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Started it recently and it's quite interesting. Can make your own pies for things. Have some which are set and forget and I'll auto invest into, others are for fun. And I like the 4.05% on uninvested cash too.