Where do you put your medium-term money?
Where do you put your medium-term money?
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jamgy

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261 posts

134 months

Thursday 19th February
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I've got various pots of money, but in terms of access they're at different ends of the spectrum

My emergency fund is in an instant access savings account busily being eroded by inflation, but that's the price I pay for knowing it will be there if I need it tomorrow

I have other money in blue chip funds, global trackers etc. but I'm aware my horizon in that should be 5 years plus, and that's the plan - that's for far off costs like school and university fees (eldest is 7), where I can also be strategic about when and how much I draw down

Where's the best place to put money in between? E.g. I'm likely to want to do some house works in 3-4 years, so I want to build up a pot for that - but don't really want it in my savings account doing nothing but being eroded, nor put it into the sort of funds that could easily dip in that time frame, and would mean either putting off the work or crystallising the losses

What would/do you do?

Bonds? Money market funds? Fixed terms savings? Keep it in a global tracker and hope the world doesn't implode?

I've looked at offset mortgages which would seem like the ideal solution, but the rates offered don't make it work for us, as the offset portion would be remain relatively small compared to the loan

FYI I'm not UK based so ISA wrappers and concerns around allowances aren't applicable, but otherwise all/most other products should be available

Hustle_

26,063 posts

182 months

Thursday 19th February
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I think if you're willing to review your accounts a couple of times a year you can probably get cash to keep up with inflation in this environment?

My emergency fund is earning 4.27% variable with limited access. My savings pot for home improvements, cars etc is earning 3.6% easy access (and I could definitely do better here).

alscar

7,953 posts

235 months

Thursday 19th February
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I’m a fan of RCI Bank and whose online portal is pretty decent.
If cash based then perhaps a mixture of Easy , 95 day Notice and FRB’s ie currently showing rates of 3.95% , 4.05% and 4.15% for a 3 year.

lizardbrain

3,742 posts

59 months

Thursday 19th February
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3 years is cash territory I think

Countdown

47,054 posts

218 months

Thursday 19th February
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Short term is in a First Direct bonus account

Medium term (3 months, usually for tax/VAT) - money market funds

Hustle_

26,063 posts

182 months

Thursday 19th February
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Countdown said:
Short term is in a First Direct bonus account
Going down to 3.35% in a few weeks though...

jamgy

Original Poster:

261 posts

134 months

Thursday 19th February
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Yeah my current instant access savings account is only 3.2% so pretty pants

I'll look to improve that but also do some digging on MMF options

Thanks all

Countdown

47,054 posts

218 months

Thursday 19th February
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Hustle_ said:
Countdown said:
Short term is in a First Direct bonus account
Going down to 3.35% in a few weeks though...
Yeah...it's not the best out there but all my other accounts and my S&S ISA are with FD so it helps just to keep things all in the same place.

trickywoo

13,557 posts

252 months

Thursday 19th February
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It’s worth considering whether or not you would still spend set aside house renovation money if your other investments had dropped 30%.


ChrisH72

2,729 posts

74 months

Thursday 19th February
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With inflation at 3% its not too difficult to find easy access savings accounts at or above that.

For medium term money I tend to use fixed rate cash ISAs but if they're not available then fixed rate savings bonds instead. It's worth shopping around for the best rates.

Hustle_

26,063 posts

182 months

Thursday 19th February
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trickywoo said:
It s worth considering whether or not you would still spend set aside house renovation money if your other investments had dropped 30%.
Interested to hear where this goes for you? Genuinely...

...hold only the cash you need for emergencies and put everything else into investments, selling when you need money for e.g. house renovations?

C69

1,056 posts

34 months

Thursday 19th February
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jamgy said:
Yeah my current instant access savings account is only 3.2% so pretty pants
Yes, I think I'd be changing that first of all. More than 4% for instant access is easily achievable at the moment (although I suspect that a lot of variable rates will drop next month if the base rate goes down).

If you know that you're going to need cash for renovations in three years, then I'd keep it simple (and risk free) by opting for a three-year fixed rate account. Likewise, there are currently several providers offering > 4% on non-ISA accounts. Cash ISA rates are generally slightly lower, but some are still above 4%.

The yields on Treasury Gilts which mature in roughly three years is around 3.5% - 3.7%. Lower rates on the face of it, but there could be tax advantages if you're already paying tax on savings and your ISA allowance is maxed out.

Cats_pyjamas

1,838 posts

170 months

Thursday 19th February
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For me it's premium bonds, mainly due to the tax free 'income' and ability to access quickly. All other savings in equities.

Blue M5 Comp

837 posts

181 months

Thursday 19th February
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I use Flagstone I have had no problems with them and good rates for fixed and instant accounts
My emergency fund is with Chase at the boosted rate which runs out in Sept at 4.25 % currently

Mazinbrum

1,203 posts

200 months

I use a money market fund but I’m currently thinking about just putting it into an ETF index tracker with a stop loss instead as the performance is obviously low, is there a downside?

mikeiow

7,805 posts

152 months

Cats_pyjamas said:
For me it's premium bonds, mainly due to the tax free 'income' and ability to access quickly. All other savings in equities.
Ours is also mostly PBs. Generally does similar to savings accounts.
We have one cash ISA as well (T212), although I don t think the rates are great now.
Some is kept (& moved around) easy access savings elements of Chase or Monzo (whoever offers the highest % at any given time). Monzo best atm.
Also make sure we have regular savers running with main accounts (First Direct, Nationwide). They are more like getting a nice little cash bonus once a year hehe