How hard is it to put up a stud wall?
How hard is it to put up a stud wall?
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Tyre Smoke

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23,018 posts

285 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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Long one short, looking to rent an industrial unit which has a mezzanine floor. I need to put in an office for three people, so was thinking bit of framework (size of wood?) and some plasterboard, skim of plaster (?) and paint. Roof it the same way, or are suspended ceilings horrendously expensive?

Add a doorway and off we go. Obviously need to speak to planning with the local council, but apart from that, how hard does it have to be?

Guess I'm looking at 5m x 5m x 2.5m at the most.

Stu R

21,443 posts

239 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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Piece of cake.

Mark it all out on the floor first. Top and sole plates, end studs, then just put studs in at equal intervals. Noggins between the studs - I normally use more noggins than most guides say, doesn't do any harm and gives it more sturdiness.Once you're done nailing the timbers together and any door / window frames are in hang the plasterboard on one side, insulate it, box it in by hanging the plasterboard on the other side. don't be shy with the amount of nails you use but keep them evenly spaced and a good 5 inches apart. Get a plasterer to skim it and you'll never know it's a stud wall.
As you're needing a roof you can probably just assemble the frame on the floor and put it up when you've got it all assembled - do fix it to the floor properly though.

studs are vertical, noggins are horizontal, top plate just gets nailed to the ceiling, the bottom plate to the floor, obviously. Other than that it's hard to go wrong. The first one I did was off the back of some very brief advice on the net, and while I'm sure someone will be along soon with a different / better method they've always worked really well. The extra noggins (usually from offcuts of studs) make it feel super solid too.

Size wise I've used 2x4 and 2x6. Makes no odds. I've yet to build one with a roof so I'll get back to you on that - I move into my new unit in a few weeks and will be needing to make one myself hehe I'll probably just run some joists atop the top plate and board it out with plywood and plasterboard or ceiling tiles.

Edited by Stu R on Wednesday 25th May 13:29

Tyre Smoke

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Wednesday 25th May 2011
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Thanks for that Stu.

Sounds simple enough, what keeps the wall rigid if it isn't fixed between two existing block walls? I guess one end of the stud wall is fixed to the block wall, the other meets the other stud wall at 90 degrees and this holds the whole thing rigid enough? Especially with a ceiling?

Thinking of using stud timber to hold up the ceiling, i.e. the same size timber as used in the studs; plenty strong enough?

lawrence567

7,507 posts

214 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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Buy some thunderbolts, drill holes through wood & into the concrete, allign, insert bolt, get socket set & tighten away.
Make sure it's a decent one though as i snapped 2 sockets doing this with a gate into a concrete path!

saleen836

12,243 posts

233 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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Nail the plasterboard?

Plasterboard is screwed up these days!

Tyre Smoke

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23,018 posts

285 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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saleen836 said:
Nail the plasterboard?

Plasterboard is screwed up these days!
I did think this, but thought it impolite to point it out. hehe

RVVUNM

1,913 posts

233 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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Have a look here http://www.british-gypsum.com/products/gypframe_me...
and buy it from here http://www.encon.co.uk/locations/
Metal stud and track is the way forward.

Tyre Smoke

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23,018 posts

285 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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Except the nearest supplier is 60 miles away and I bet it ain't cheap!

Roy E6

1,025 posts

256 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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Metal stud is quicker and cheaper than timber, and easier so win win.

Qcarchoo

471 posts

217 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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If you're going to get the council involved be prepared to meet the requirements for fireproofing and disabled access.

Skyedriver

22,433 posts

306 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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Stud wall is easy peasy - if in doubt, Wickes have a how to do it leaflet with diagrams

anonymous-user

78 months

Wednesday 25th May 2011
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Qcarchoo said:
If you're going to get the council involved be prepared to meet the requirements for fireproofing and disabled access.
why even bother with them it's all internal isn't it. Just add another 2 years & £10k to the project probably wobble

cjs

11,491 posts

275 months

Thursday 26th May 2011
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You may find your Mezz floor is not designed as a permanent work place, just a storage area. Proper approval may cost you a fortune. Does the Mezz have an alternative fire exit? You need to think about how the Staff will get out if there is a fire downstairs.

Tyre Smoke

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Thursday 26th May 2011
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I would think it will be fine, not the only unit on the estate with an office on the mezzinine. Going to check with planning this morning.

V8S

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261 months

Friday 27th May 2011
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RVVUNM said:
Have a look here http://www.british-gypsum.com/products/gypframe_me...
and buy it from here http://www.encon.co.uk/locations/
Metal stud and track is the way forward.
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