Toilet Plummed into Hot Water

[Progressive]

Moving into a rented flat in the next couple of weeks. Signed and agreed. In passing, the landlord mentioned that the toilet is plummed into hot water after a botched DIY attempt. He said that he had considered changing it back but that would mean ripping half the tiles off the wall in the bathroom.

I said that it shouldn't be a problem but then got thinking about the possible implications.


1) The cost. Until I looked in the cistern, I hadn't realised just how much hot water will be used at every flush. Will it cost me alot more with this detup?

2) Secondly, any other issues that may arise from this unorthodox flushing procedure?


Any suggestions / advice?

[Mr E Driver]

Is that the same as plumbed into hot .......

[Wacky Racer]

Toilet and Bidet all in one.

What's not to like?....

Think of the savings on toilet paper......

[jagnet]

Depending on the age of the toilet, you could be using about 9 litres of water per flush. That's equivalent to about 1 minute in the shower. Four or five flushes per day is therefore going to be like having an extra shower. So yeah, if the landlord is happy paying your gas bill...?

I've come across a similar botched DIY job before, and the heat from the water had aged the rubber float valve diaphragm very quickly. Can't see it being too good for syphon diaphragms etc either.

Over time, the cost of re-doing it properly is going to look pretty economical compared to the cost of not sorting it.

[Landlord]

My sister-in-law's house had the same. She looked at me blankly when I said she was a bit young for the menopause.

But yes, the cost of heating water just to have it transport your bodily secretions doesn't make sense. If the landlord isn't going to do anything about it, how about suggesting he pays towards your gas bill. I suspect he won't like that.

[IainT]

I'd certainly be arguing the toss over the extra energy costs. any repairs that are required because of hot water in the cistern are the Landlord's problem but inconvenitnet to you.

[944fan]

At least you should get less condensation on the cistern! Silver liinigs and all that.

[Progressive]

We're not getting a bad deal with the flat itself so I'm reluctant to complain, unless of course it's costing me considerable cash.

With regard to the degredation of the materials, I couldn't care less about that. It makes sense though that over time it will cost him more, I just don't think he can be bothered to get it sorted.

My girlfriend (randomly) mentioned putting a couple of house bricks in the cistern. Good idea?

[Mr Gearchange]

We had a vuagely similar situation in a house we used to rent years ago.

If you turned the water heater override on the boiler would just keep dumping boiling water into the tank - but it didn't turn itself off - in time is would send it up an expansion pipe and dump it in the loft tank - intended for cold water upstairs. You would get red hot water out of all the taps upstairs - and the toilet.

The toilet was the cleanest thing you have ever seen - every flush was with boiling water.

[Nobby Diesel]

Progressive said:

We're not getting a bad deal with the flat itself so I'm reluctant to complain, unless of course it's costing me considerable cash.

With regard to the degredation of the materials, I couldn't care less about that. It makes sense though that over time it will cost him more, I just don't think he can be bothered to get it sorted.

My girlfriend (randomly) mentioned putting a couple of house bricks in the cistern. Good idea?

Not sure about a couple of house bricks - more like a couple of tea bags.
A pony and a brew, all in one. To be honest, I think it's the way forward.

[Simpo Two]

I doubt much of the water going down the toilet is actually hot.

[Wacky Racer]

Nobby Diesel said:

Progressive said:

We're not getting a bad deal with the flat itself so I'm reluctant to complain, unless of course it's costing me considerable cash.

With regard to the degredation of the materials, I couldn't care less about that. It makes sense though that over time it will cost him more, I just don't think he can be bothered to get it sorted.

My girlfriend (randomly) mentioned putting a couple of house bricks in the cistern. Good idea?

Not sure about a couple of house bricks - more like a couple of tea bags.
A pony and a brew, all in one. To be honest, I think it's the way forward.

[anonymous-user]

Simpo Two said:

I doubt much of the water going down the toilet is actually hot.

But if it's a combi boiler then that will kick in each time the bog is flushed, if not then the pipes are getting hot water from a tank even if the toilet is not. Either way it's a bodge & would make me wonder what else is wrong in there, dodgy electrics anyone?

[mgtony]

Nobby Diesel said:

Not sure about a couple of house bricks - more like a couple of tea bags.
A pony and a brew, all in one. To be honest, I think it's the way forward.

[jagnet]

mgtony said:

On the plus side, at least it wasn't connected to the gas. Such things have been known to happen

[M400 NBL]

If you can set the temperature to warm, you can wash your hands (and face even) whilst flushing.

[IanMorewood]

Turn the water off (isolator valve) to it and run bucket to flush the toilet?

And yes a brick in the cistern will reduce the amount of water you flush away each time.

[jdw1234]

Don't do any "courtesy flushes".

This will make poo tea.

[Simpo Two]

IanMorewood said:

And yes a brick in the cistern will reduce the amount of water you flush away each time.

Although the number of bricks is inversely proportional to LSP (Log Shifting Potential)...

[thinfourth2]

If it bothers you and there is room in the pipework then run a pipe over the wall to the nearest cold pipe and return it to hot poo when you move out