DIY cooker installation
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Toyowner

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25,384 posts

245 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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Going to replace our ageing cooker in the next month or so.

Currently have a duel fuel with gas hob and electric oven,which is how I want the replacement to be as well.

My current cooker has a quick connect type bayonet fitting for the gas and the oven hard wires into a socket on the wall.

Is it still ok for me to buy a cooker from Comet etc and fit myself or do I have to get bent over and pay some sillly installation fee?

Blakeatron

2,556 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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persoanlly I would go for it - like for like should be easy. Just use common sense (unsure wether new cookers have quick release?)

Awaits responses regarding blowing up your house and electrocuting the children....

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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I recently changed my Gas cooker. The old one had bayonet type fitting, the new one came with nothing. So I just took the hose off the old one & put it onto the new one. Passed the soap bubble test. Probably highly illegal but I lived to tell the tale!

zaphod42

58,156 posts

179 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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You can buy a cooker, no-one will force installation on you.

You could do it yourself.

Question is, if you have to ask, are you really competent to do it (ignoring legislation for a sec)?
Question is, if you do an "okay" job, but than have an issue, won't your household insurance be invalidated?
Taking both above, whilst technically easy, is it worth the risk for £50?

The legislation wasn't brought in for fun, it was brought in (many years ago) due to the number of people causing gas leaks, minor electrocution, etc - very few explosions wink

Toyowner

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25,384 posts

245 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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Jimbo,that's my feeling too, but I'm concerned the likes of the big sheds won't let me do that...

zaphod42

58,156 posts

179 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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Toyowner said:
Jimbo,that's my feeling too, but I'm concerned the likes of the big sheds won't let me do that...
The big sheds will not force their installation on you. They will make you aware of the law, but can't mandate their fitting as that would be anti-competitive...

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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Toyowner said:
Jimbo,that's my feeling too, but I'm concerned the likes of the big sheds won't let me do that...
My cooker was delivered before the kitchen was finished, so it was sat in its wrapper for a few weeks. They just delivered it, nothing more!

Zippee

13,961 posts

258 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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Jimboka said:
My cooker was delivered before the kitchen was finished, so it was sat in its wrapper for a few weeks. They just delivered it, nothing more!
Same here.
TBH - a straight wiring swap I'd be comfortable with. It's ensuring the gas pipe is fitted properly and not leaking I wouldn't be so certain of.

Edited by Zippee on Thursday 4th August 16:50

smn159

15,208 posts

241 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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If you're not confident to do it yourself I'd pay up and get someone in to do it for you. That said I did my own, including moving the gas cooker point, and lived to tell the tale.

Simpo Two

91,581 posts

289 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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I did mine and I'm sti

Ganglandboss

8,502 posts

227 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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The electric cooker can be replaced without any part P implications as it is a straight swap. One of the gas chaps will be along shortly to tell you a gas hob should not be on a flex.

You do not have to be Gas Safe registered to work in your own home but you must be competent. If it goes tits up and you end up in court, it is down to you to prove you are competent - not the other way around.

Edited by Ganglandboss on Thursday 4th August 17:00

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

210 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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i'v always fitted my own over the years without problems.
just check the gas connections with some soapy water and if theres no bubbles you've done it right.

jason s4

16,810 posts

194 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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Yeah go for it.

The only thing you wont have is any warranty, as a registered gas safe installer should connect it and send off the registration form.

Toyowner

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25,384 posts

245 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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I should aslo have said in the OP, Ive converted this cooker from natural gas to Lpg and back again over the years, so Im more than happy to deal with it myself.

Having had a quick surf tonight, it looks like around £75 to pay the sheds bods to do the job.

Arthur Jackson

2,111 posts

254 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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Check the ventilation requirements and running pressure too. And stability requirements.

Gareth79

8,773 posts

270 months

Thursday 4th August 2011
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I did a bit of research a while ago. Basically disconnecting and reconnecting the same cooker is fine - ie. to clean behind or replace a floor etc. is fine, but a new cooker is a new installation and technically you should be competent etc, and Gas Safe regd if you are charging people. Apparently the main points are selecting a correct length hose and routing it correctly (some parts of the rear get hot), ensuring the cooker end is sealed properly, ensuring the bayonet connection is snug and undamaged, then running a flow and pressure test. The pipe in my kitchen had been capped so I had to get somebody in to put a new bayonet in anyway.

One point - soapy water should not be used because it causes corrosion to metal parts, and probably rubber too. A can of proper leak fluid is only a couple of quid from Screwfix and will last forever (well, mine rusted along a seam after a couple of months and leaked everywhere frown ).


Edited by Gareth79 on Thursday 4th August 21:00